Herd immunity by April?

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  1. LoneStarGal

    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes. Yes, it appears that way. People with a different perspective are now called "Partisan" and are thus subject to ridicule and intolerance. LOL
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, we probably shouldn't have told people to stop going to the dentist or for other scheduled health issues "unless it was a dire emergency". But hindsight is 20/20.

    Will we, the survivors, live and learn or will we just buy wholesale whatever BS propaganca story the government and their preferred "experts" choose to dish out?
     
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    Like I said, in an effort to ridicule the pro-Trump people, I won't be using CDC figures......I'll be using State's figures, and in your case, I'll wait patiently for Texas' Department of Health figures.
     
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    Good deal. Great minds think alike. I'm waiting for the fed numbers and you're waiting on state numbers. Sounds like we've got it covered. :thumbsup:
     
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    What an idiot this guy is.

    *******s were claiming heard immunity had already set in all the back in last June in NYC because the infection rate dropped so steeply due to closures. Now the numbers recede, as we knew they would, because the holiday spike is ending and again, some moron declares herd imunity is here.

    Figures this is printed in a Trumpist newspaper.
     
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    Well let's hope the common citizen is not quite so enamored of the brilliance of doctors, en masse, as were you, when you switched me to ignore, because I suggested that not all doctors were close to equal, that it could not be assumed all would follow all the same procedures, & that many could not be trusted to pass along the most accurate, responsible, or even ethical, information. So now you are agreeing with me; oh, but this one quoted doctor, you will probably still maintain, is just one in a million-- the way that my examples of the physician who purposely used a tainted injection to give his ex-lover AIDS & Hep-C, or the Olympic gymnastics team doctor who sexually abused his patients, you felt, in no way suggested that there could be many others committing less-sensational, ethical infractions.

    So how does this story change good Dr. Centerfield's advice on always trusting what a doctor says?

    I couldn't agree with you more. He probably has a higher than average I.Q., nonetheless, to have been able to get through the schooling & pass the medical board exams (right, Centerfield?). I guess that goes to prove-- to someone who doesn't have his head up his own, superior, rectum-- that intelligence doesn't prevent one from, functionally, being an idiot.
     
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    First he didn't say it was here NOW, he said the numbers are showing we COULD hit it by April and he is not the only scientist/expert saying so.

    So before you rant get your facts straight
     
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    Makary holds degrees from Bucknell University, Thomas Jefferson University and Harvard University. Makary was president of the student body at Harvard, and later served on the alumni board. He completed a Masters of Public Health (M.P.H.) degree, with a concentration in Health Policy.

    Expressing a professional opinion makes a Harvard scholar an idiot.

    2021 has been really fun so far. Lots of humor from our left flank! Keep 'em coming, y'all! :p
     
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    We had about a week of mass vaccinations, waiting period and second shots were available. I saw this morning that infection rates are dropping here. Don't say it's over just that the curve is trending down.
     
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    In 30 (approximate time to April) we can immunize 15 million people, realistically. Our population is 340 million. Tell me how heard immunity makes sense. That's right, you can't. Now add to this, everything is reopening and more contagious strains are taking hold.

    It' s a pipe dream.

    Peace
     
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    I know idiots from every walk of life. I have out argued many a "professional." Some you would know the names of.
    Titles mean only a bit if you are of enough wisdom to understand.

    Peace
     
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    where?
    I have put in more than 40 hours trying to get an appointment. Could only get on two waiting lists.
     
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    I'm in West Texas Ector county. We went through our hospital system, preregistered and then went to the drive through line for first shots. Second one I went to an emergency center that was doing shots and just walked in and got shot. The waiting period watching me for reaction took longer.
     
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    Great minds also know that provisional numbers are generally higher or lower than the final figures, for example;

    CDC's 2017-2018 Flu Season, number of deaths;

    Provisional; 80,000
    Final; 61,000

    HOWEVER, Arizona's health officials are wondering about the following HUGE EXCESS:

    2019 Final; 60,161 deaths
    2020 Provisional; 75,133 deaths............PLUS near 15,000 deaths
    2020 Covid19 deaths; 8,864
    https://pub.azdhs.gov/health-stats/mu/index.php

    In addition, this article;

    The number of Arizona deaths in 2020 was 25% higher than in 2019, new state data shows

    Arizona recorded 60,161 deaths in 2019 and 75,133 deaths in 2020, according to the preliminary data from the Arizona Department of Health Services. That’s a difference of nearly 15,000 deaths, a year-over-year increase of about 25%, but the uptick cannot yet entirely be attributed to SARS-CoV-2, or the new coronavirus, which causes COVID-19 disease.

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/new...2020-preliminary-state-data-shows/4233771001/

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    Right. We never should have interrupted peoples' normal health care routines nor forced healthy people into poverty and debt.

    The governments were obviously going to kill a lot of people unnecessarily by shutting down health and locking people out of work.
     
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    What I'm trying to tell you is Arizona currently has an excess above an excess so to speak.

    In other words, we're in for a big surprise!
     
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    Yes, I know.
     
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    I received my invitation to get registered for my vaccination. Being a cautious little mouse, I am scared!!
    One little google about Pfizer got me even more scared....

    Makeleio, a Greek tabloid newspaper, compared the CEO of the pharmaceutical company Pfizer, who is Jewish, to Nazi Dr. Josef Mengele in a series of articles following Pfizer’s announcement of a COVID-19 vaccine.

    More here:
    https://jewishjournal.com/news/3250...g Pfizer’s announcement of a COVID-19 vaccine.
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    The Greeks are very intelligent people, at least they used to in the past. Perhaps I'll wait and let others get the vaccine first and then see how they survive.
    Any good advice from the membership out there?
     
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    One must be pretty frightened to be willing to have one's body desecrated with an experimental concoction, but they are standing in line to do it. Yes, the herd is still in stampede.

    I know quite a few who've taken it, including 1 brother and his wife. Most of the people I know who've taken it are keeping very private about it, but only 1 death so far.

    Wait, would be my advice. If one is healthy with a healthy immune system, what advantage is gained by taking a shot that edits your genetic material and does not make you immune?
     
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    And I have the advantage of knowing......

    My first thread, dated Jan 26;

    Michigan's Jan 2019 to Jan 2021 Monthly Death Counts

    AND by the end of June, at least 7 states will finalize their 2020 death counts, and then, WATCH OUT!

    psst; This is my dossier.













     
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    Watch out for what?
     
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    Watch out those who believe Covid19 deaths have been overcounted.......I know who you are, and you will be ridiculed.
     
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    If you buy into any of those stats as accurate during this last year, I have some really attractive real estate here in the Everglades you might like to buy. :alcoholic:
     
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    A tragic numbers of lives have been lost the last year due to the irrational response to the last two seasons' influenza strains. Many of them got toe-tagged "Covid", but most died from other causes.
     
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