Here are the "hats" beating up the first protestors and macing them

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can't deal with bigoted lying. Sorry pal.

    According to your rules, I don't need to condemn the Nazis nor does President Bush.
     
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    Why during the era of Trump?

    The reality is that nazis could care less about statues of dead guys who attacked the United States. They are not the Daughters of the Confederacy with shaved heads and tattooed swastikas.

    - and racist statues have always been repugnant to many patriotic Americans since they were erected by racists in the 1920s when racist lynchings befouled the nation..

    On July 8, about 50 members of a Ku Klux Klan group from North Carolina had held a rally near the statue, but they were outnumbered by about 1,000 opposing the racists. The chair of the Charlottesville Republican Party, said of the Klan at that time that the “intolerance and hatred they seek to promote is utterly disgusting and disturbing beyond words.”

    It still is.

    American values endure, and symbols of racism fall.
     
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    I see whacha mean, hotshot. Are you a supporter of the neo nazis? Sounds like it.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Some of what you said to me has value. I salute the value and dismiss the rest.

    Statues are not racist. Statues are monuments of history. Statues are part of history. Were we to follow you, we would raze Mt. Vernon, Monticello and Montpelier to name 3 sites. They contain to this day clear proof of slavery. We would rip away Lincoln's since he divided this nation. We now fight each other. Abe the outlaw is behind this so his statue in DC must be removed and replaced by a non killer of Americans.

    I do not allow Nazis to dictate to me, nor should you cater to their whims. But you need to condemn the other side of the Nazi coin, the AntiFA. They are surely very violent.

    The statues of Robert E. Lee are magnificent. Good men and women constructed them. They did not erect them over race.

    Statues even at Gettysburg of Robert E. Lee reflect a way to heal the nation.

    Antifa thugs want the nation ripped to shreds. This does not excuse Nazis at all but they were correct to protest the removal of such statues.

    Bear in mind who erected the Statues. It was Democrats. Were they wrong to erect them? Though I am no longer a Democrat, I say hurray to the fine monuments to a lousy and tragic war.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    While we do disavow Nazis, we still want your side to disavow the AntiFA.

    Nazis and Fascists are just the same coin. Mussolini was a huge fan of Hitler. Those you defend are very evil. They are not anti fascists. They act the same so can't be different.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Democrats should never have created the KKK. But now they won't take the blame. Want to pass the buck. A navy officer founded the Nazis. I read his history.
     
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    Presumptuous and false. Were you to have enough moral courage to follow me, you would not tear down monuments to historical figures who founded the United States as opposed to those who fought against it.

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    That pathetic attempt at diversion by equivalency has failed. Given the deadly rightist terrorism in Charlottesville, it is, as I noted elsewhere, comparable to a match factory owner acknowledging someone's death in a fire by pointing out that floods kill people sometimes as well. So what? The victim did not drown.

    Your pretend to know who erected statues in an era of rabid racism in the 1920s. I do not. I know what they symbolize now for the neo-nazis, ku klux klan, and other white supremacists who are attracted to them like flies to stuff that attracts flies.

    Again, I do not presume to divine the motivations of the racist 1920s, nor do I care what their political party affiliations may have been.

    Statues in tribute to individuals who fought against the United States to perpetuate the depraved institution of slavery do not belong in the United States of today.

    Honestly acknowledging all American history does not mean celebrating every aspect of it without any moral discretion.
     
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    How many have they killed
    Lefty thugs, wow. So no comment on good old Rich.
     
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    Sure I do, I said both parties should have the right to express themselves.
     
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    I didn't.

    I think the guy who compared me to a Nazi can speak for himself.
     
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    Who claimed they can't have free speech?
     
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    What?
     
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    It is not for me to care whether they grow or don't grow, just that they obey our laws and respect our constitutional freedoms; something those on your side seem to have little regard for. What I do know, is that they likely will grow if you on the left keep growing anti-white and anti-American hate groups like anti-fa and BLM.

    So tell me this, is a growing Anti-Fa and BLM group FINE with you?
     
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    Nope. None at all. Did he smash heads like your alt left team?
     
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    In cahoots, no doubt. Which explains why OWS was brutally put down during Obama's term.
     
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    Funny how Friday night, when there were hardly any counter-protesters, there was hardly any violence (just very minor, isolated incidents - nothing like what was seen on Saturday)
    OK, now answer the question I asked you:

    Tell us, how would you defend the free speech rights of people with a despicable belief structure? Or would you take those rights away?
     
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    I don't know your man is running over folks.
     
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    The ALT Right has no power. None. Those losers are going to change anything.

    However, the fascists on the left ANTIFA, Communists, etc... they are getting there way. People are getting fired, Orwellian acts are happening, and the nation's Free Speech roots are being torn apart.

    I can't stand the KKK and the other racist losers, but they are not the danger here. They are 150 people at Charlottsville and their national numbers are pathetic.
     
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    :roflol: I know you love to go off topic but what does BUSH have to do with it .....??:roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Not a fan of free speech or the constitution or anyone that thinks the redecorating the left wants is stupid eh?
     
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    Yes, because here in the US marching down the street shouting whatever nonsense you like isn't against the law.
     
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    Groups counterprotesting included representatives from the National Council of Churches,[53] Black Lives Matter,[54] Anti-Racist Action,[55] Antifa,[3] the Democratic Socialists of America,[56] the Workers World Party,[57] the Revolutionary Communist Party,[58] Redneck Revolt,[59] the Industrial Workers of the World,[60][61] the Metropolitan Anarchist Coordinating Council,[62] and Showing Up for Racial Justice.[55][63][64]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally#Counterprotestors
     
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    ????? They went to protest, not to fight. The medias trying sooooo hard to portray them as violent anti black racists. They gathered in the 10s of 1000s, probably 1000s of semi automatic weapons and hand guns, they had bricks, crap and pee thrown at them, maced in the face, taunted every step of the way by counter protesters and ONE white lady was killed, run over by a car.
     
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