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  1. ARDY

    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Look, i do not dispute that people can be stupid .... of course that dynamic cold be equally valid for viewers of fox news

    But your post seems to presume that there is a
    real & true ideology of progressivism,

    I want to learn more about this.... because, all i see now is that
    This “real and true ideology”. Is what ever you say it is for purposes of dismissing it. (Socialism totalitarianism). Where, how, and by whom has this true ideology been established?

    Truthfully, without some more convincing evidence, this sounds as bizarrely and expeditiously invented as when jordan peterson claims that sam harris is actually a Christian..... despite his extensive history of anti religious debates
     
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    By whom?
    Nonsense. Healthy children aren't dying, because they're growing; and dying organisms don't self-repair, but living organisms do it all the time.
    Why would we, when there's no patent contradiction in someone being alive one moment and dead the next, any more than it's a violation of the law of identity when a cookie ceases to be a cookie after you eat it?
     
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    Doug1943 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    FinalPhilosopher: have you ever looked into the ideas of Alfred Korzybski? It struck me that he would have something to say when people were arguing about 'progressivism' etc Namely, words don't 'have' meanings -- they are used in certain ways, sometime contradictory ways. 'Socialism' is the supreme example of a word that has been rendered almost meaningless, because it's used for everything from total state owenership and control of the productive forces, all the way to old-age pensions paid for by deductions from one's wages.
     
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    Well, you definitely should learn a few things if you stick around long enough. This place is great for studying human psychology.
     
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    Personally I cannot fuse philosophy and logic as one is subjective opinion and the other attempts to set parameters for absolute truth. Logically, philosophy is not a science and should never be counted as such...do you agree?
     
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    Final Philosopher: you said
    Could you explain how you are using the phrase 'dialectical logic', perhaps with a few examples?
     
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