Hillary Clinton: ‘Americans Can’t Afford Another Day’ of Government Shutdown

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  1. struth

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    i doubt it. They’d rather people get sick from bad food or attacked by terrorist then fund border security properly.
     
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    Horrible optics for the left. I’m sure the 800k people without pay would love a party
     
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    They are gonna have to tighten their belts...dems are too busy partying.
     
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    Not a Clinton fan, but she's correct. People will not be able to go without paychecks forever, farmers will not be able to go without funding or help from the USDA forever, entire lives are being ruined over an issue that has been exaggerated.
     
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    Isn't this just typical of liberals - to appeal to the shallow rationale of the liberal lobby by adopting a populist non-productive stance to a problem, and demonize someone who is actually trying their best to resolve it?
     
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    Thats how they do.

    I read that something like 90% of the people affected by the shut down donated to Hillary Clinton.

    She's trying to protect her people so to speak.
     
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    Is there anything she has said that is incorrect? I'm no Hillary fan, so I ignore the fact that SHE is saying it.

    The reality is that national parks ARE being destroyed
    https://www.theguardian.com/environ...ua-tree-park-closed-shutdown-vandalism-latest

    People are devastated by the loss of their pay check
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/11/business/federal-shutdown-divide.html

    And the American public has been put in danger due to the lack of food safety checks by the FDA
    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...own-stops-fda-food-safety-inspections-n956716
     
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    I hear the parks are getting pretty nasty.

    Most govt employees belong to credit unions that are offering interest free loans until dems open the govt back up.

    And per your article, the USDA is resuming inspections.

    But she has a point.

    Why won't dems play ball?
     
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    They did. But it was rejected. So, as per any kind of negotiation, the ball is in Trump's court. He keeps calling for them to 'come back to the table'...but what is HE offering once they get there?
     
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    Dems have even thrown daca under the bus.

    Funny thing is, with emergency funding Trump can build the wall AND keep the govt closed.

    Talk about epic win.


    Trump Has the Democrats Cornered
    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/01/trump_has_the_democrats_cornered.html
     
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    True.

    And it is 100% on Trump.
     
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    So if this is such a huge problem...why won't the dems just fund the wall? I'm not a fan of the wall but I'd rather have them build it instead of having friends not get paid.

    This isn't just on Trump. The dems DO have the option to just pay for it. And if you disagree, then you're just as much to blame as Trump.

    This isn't rocket science.
     
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    Dems want border security - which involves all kinds of levels, including technology and expanded personnel. Trump wants border security - which involves a wall. To suggest that Dems don't want any kind of border security is disingenuous - almost as disingenuous as Trump suggesting that a wall is the ONLY way to get border security. His mask is slipping here - standing firm ONLY on the wall says that he is more interested in fulfilling a campaign promise than actual security. And he's willing to let Americans suffer for it...
     
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    You must have responded to the wrong person, I made no such claim.

    Once again, this isn't only on Trump. If the Dems cared so much about these workers...they HAVE the option to just fund the wall.

    Problem solved.

    If the wall doesn't work, then you can brag about being right.
     
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    The Buck stops with Trump.

    Trump is the one who has to compromise to reopen the gov't.
     
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    Actually, that's false. If the wall is funded, he can immediately end the shutdown. Which means that the left HAS the option to end the shutdown.
     
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    There's 'being' right, and then there's 'doing' right. And I don't think spending $5B+ of tax payers money is 'doing' right, just to turn around to be able to say 'I'm right'!
     
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    What if the wall does prevent illegal immigration drastically? You're only viewing this one way.
     
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    I was completely unaware that Hillary still had followers.

    Re: Food Safety.
    Demand that all of those undocumented Democrats who harvest our food wash their hands after taking a crap.
     
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    Wrong kiddo.
     
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    I guess I'm not a person who would bet $5B of other people's money on a 'what if'.
     
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    Americans Can’t Afford Another Day’ of Government Shutdown

    This is, of course, a lie.
     
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    Everything in legislation and politics is "what if". The goal is to prevent illegal immigration. If you build a wall around your house 30 feet high...would intruders have an easier, or a harder time entering?
     
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