hillary: new book ! one more run ?

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  1. qmuddy2

    qmuddy2 Banned

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    does her new book signify she'll give it one more shot in 2020 ? thanks
     
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    One more run? Heck, she can't even walk.

     
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    Hillary Clinton was so horrible she couldn't even beat Donald Trump. Lets give someone else a shot like Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden, or Elizabeth Warren.

     
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    It looks like she's had too many shots.
    I think her cronies at the DNC are gone. No way they'd give her another chance after losing twice to a rookie and then a novice.
     
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    Being a power hungry leftist, she will probably try if her health permits. Losing to trump twice would be hella funny.
     
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    Not going to happen. For starters, she is an inept campaigner who is politically tone deaf.
    One example: her remarks in West Virginia about “ . . .put(ting) a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business.” That probably seemed like a safe comment since she was going to lose that state anyway. Evidently she (or her handlers) were unaware that there are coal miners in Pennsylvania, a state she lost by a mere 34,000 votes.
    For the record, I thought she would have been a decent President. Not great, but decent.
     
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    She couldn't fill a high school gym

    :roflol:This part of your post is hilarious. "Hillary might of won if she kept her agenda secret". Don't tell people you're gunna shut down coal mines. Say you love coal and coal miners then give them the shaft after you're elected. CLASSIC... typical leftist thinking.
     
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    Oh please. Even masochism has its limits.
     
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    If she were to have a major change of heart.......
    she actually has great potential.


    Can Hillary completely repent?
     
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    Here's more:

    http://nypost.com/2017/04/22/why-cant-the-clintons-just-go-away/

    Why can’t the Clintons just go away?
    By Maureen Callahan April 22, 2017 | 9:27am
    Why can’t the Clintons just go away?
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    God help us if Chelsea Clinton runs for office
    Since losing the most winnable presidential election in modern American history, Hillary Clinton has, among other things: given a series of high-profile speeches, joined Gov. Cuomo at his public unveiling of tuition-free college, refused to rule out a run for mayor of New York and issued an online video message exhorting fellow Democrats to fight on in her name.

    “The challenges we face,” she said, “as a country and a party, are real.”

    Clearly, Hillary still sees herself as the leader of the Democratic Party. And why shouldn’t she? Democrats have been locked in an abusive relationship with the Clintons for decades, enabling, explaining, convincing themselves that next time will be different. Party faithful hew to Hillary’s excuses for losing to Donald Trump: It’s James Comey’s fault, plus the Russians, white supremacists, misogynists, the deplorables and immobilized millennials, among other things.

    Her losses in 2008 and 2016 have been framed as things that happened to Hillary — not one, but two Black Swan events that stymied her historic destiny.

    How is it that Democrats have fealty here, let alone sympathy? How is it that Hillary routinely walks into standing ovations at Broadway theaters? Where is the realization that Hillary is to blame or the rational rejection of a two-time loser?

    Any debate about what happened last November ends with Tuesday’s publication of “Shattered: Inside Hillary Clinton’s Doomed Campaign.” Journalists Jonathan Allen and Amie Parnes spent the past two years talking to Hillary’s most trusted advisers, and what emerges is damning.

    Every mistake made in her 2008 run was compounded in 2016: the paranoia, the staff infighting, the underestimation of the intra-party wild card, the self-righteousness, the failure to connect with average voters, the belief that because it was her turn the presidency would be hers. It’s “Groundhog Day” with global consequences.Modal Trigger

    According to “Shattered,” after a year spent crisscrossing the country, “Hillary still couldn’t figure out why Americans were so angry.” Jon Favreau, Obama’s favorite speechwriter, lasted with Hillary mere weeks, quitting before she even formally announced.

    She has no clear reason for running, Favreau told her staff. She has no clear vision for the country and can’t answer two simple questions: Why her, and why now?

    By late 2015, Hillary told an aide she still had no idea what voters needed. “I’m really trying to put my finger on what the electorate, the Democratic primary electorate, the broader electorate is thinking and feeling right now.”

    By then, the US economy had been decimated for seven years. Unemployment was stagnant, with 7.5 million Americans without work. One of every 122 homes had been foreclosed. More than 33,000 Americans died as a result of the opioid epidemic. An average of 20 veterans committed suicide per day. There was no shortage of issues.

    Where is the realization that Hillary is to blame or the rational rejection of a two-time loser?
    Similarly, Hillary didn’t get why Bernie Sanders was resonating. Her worst defenses kicked in, fertilized by her top aides. “From the Clinton campaign’s perspective,” the authors write, Bernie “was getting an even easier ride from the media than Obama had in 2008.”

    Hillary’s Twitter feed indicates that she’s learned nothing. She posts about social issues and identity politics through the prism of her loss. She remains woefully out of touch and she still doesn’t get what her husband did way back in 1992: It’s the economy, stupid.

    Unless deprived of oxygen, Hillary and her cohort will press on, further retarding party progress. Stars such as Elizabeth Warren and Kirsten Gillibrand are fighting for column inches, airtime and party dominance as the Clintons stubbornly remain.

    Two weeks ago, reports surfaced that Huma Abedin, long viewed by Hillary’s top aides as a major liability, is shopping a $2 million tell-all. Given that the book has Hillary’s blessing, and that Abedin’s husband, Anthony Weiner, remains under federal investigation for child pornography — and that she’s still married to Anthony Weiner — who really thinks she’s going to spill anything? It smacks of Abedin’s environment: another grubby Clinton-style cash grab, promising something she’ll never deliver.

    Chelsea Clinton, meanwhile, is reportedly being groomed for a congressional seat and this week appeared on the cover of Variety as a “Woman of Power.” She’s never looked happier, and she’s never attempted to look so hip, outfitted in jeans, a white T-shirt and black leather jacket. Who could she be hoping to reach?

    “This is not the time to be silent or stay on the sidelines,” Chelsea said. In true Clintonian mixed-messaging, she’s ruling out a run for office while continuing to raise her profile, offering policy-free platitudes to heartbroken Dems. “Talk about what’s really at risk in this moment,” she said. “Raise your voice and help others raise their voices.”

    It’s a version of her mother’s intransigence, the refusal to admit voters have rejected this brand twice and to act with resultant humility. According to “Shattered,” Hillary’s repeated refusal to apologize for anything — most notably the use of her private server while secretary of state — was one of her most frustrating faults. Her closest aides kept pushing early on for a sincere apology to the American people, but Hillary remained defiant.

    In fact, the only time her aides heard Hillary apologize was on election night, after her loss was indisputable. Even then, President Obama had to urge her to concede. “Mr. President,” Hillary said, “I’m sorry.”

    It’s an apology Hillary owes her supporters, who have stuck through two ostensible “sure-thing” runs for president. And then Hillary and the would-be Clinton dynasty should do the right thing and just go — before the party, like the weary American electorate, is forced to show them the door.
     
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    I doubt it

    she did get the most votes, and only lost cause many did not get out and vote cause they thought Trump did not stand a chance, so she could win, just doubt she will want too
     
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    Hillary lost to the worst, and most disgusting opponent in American history. She's hopeless as a candidate.

    If the republicans had run a decent candidate, he would have mopped the floor with this self-satisfied, arrogant, hag.
     
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    I've mentioned this during campaign: that she was running because she was "entitled" and it was "her turn"

    Trump on the other hand saw that the country needed answers and he had them.

    As concerning the topic of the OP, I think she may very well run again. She still has a lot of corruption and corporate donors to put her as the nominee once again.

    It really depends on the donors. When do they back off? Or is Hillary that big for them? Lets be real though they have a weak bench. Knowing how corrupt the DNC is they will crook up a person in the mold of Clinton, Perez.
     
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    The DEM's can't afford to give Hillary one more run.

    She cost them the House and Senate (at least one of which they should have won) as well as The White House.
     
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    What makes you think the DP is smart enough to consider what they can afford? They were too stupid to understand this was a change election, and they cheated their change candidate in favor of a person who got beat once already. America picked a feller with a muslim name over her, and then they picked someone like trump over her the next time she ran. Enough people demanded change so much, that they voted for trump. No, it would not surprise me if the dems nominated her next time. Repeating the same actions while expecting different results.
     
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    There are lots of up and coming DEM's. They don't need to scrape the bottom of the barrel with Hillary next time again.
     
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    And exactly what within Hillary's storied track record of having no genuine accomplishments would provide you with that sense of competence?
     
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    It's an opinion . . . one based on her record as a competent U.S. Senator and Secretary of State.
    Cutting to the chase, she would have been the third term of Barack Obama. While that might be an anathema to some, others (mea culpa) think that would have been a better option than the first term of Donald J. Trump.
     
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    Hillary’s election loss excuse means one thing — She’s running in 2020....

    Hillary Clinton is baaack and ready to rumble.

    Politico reports she is launching a new group to raise money for the resistance to Trump’s presidency. The group will be called Onward Together, and Clinton is said to be meeting with donors to form a board of directors.

    Her cadre of unemployed hangers-on must be thrilled to have a new slush fund, but most Dems are probably thinking, “Haven’t we suffered enough?”

    It’s hard to imagine her as the party’s savior, yet, instead of going away quietly, she’ll be competing with its candidates for money and attention. Anything she gets will come at the expense of new leaders and ideas.

    On the other hand, what’s bad for Dems is great for Trump. Clinton’s decision to jump back into partisan politics is a gift to the president.

    The Onward Together venture would fit the pattern, with self-promotion and private-jet perks guaranteed. By vacuuming up bags of cash and deciding who is worthy of it, she would be in a strong position to control the party.

    Still, the foundation had some charity works, which Hillary cited during the campaign to turn away criticism. But now that she’s free to spend her time on them, she’s focusing on a cause closer to her heart: a third race for the White House......snip~

    http://nypost.com/2017/05/07/hillarys-election-loss-excuse-means-one-thing-shes-running-in-2020/


    She thinks the leftness is dumber than a bunch of rocks. That they can be made to forget all her corrupt, incompetent and lying ways.
     
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    :applause::applause::applause::banana::banana::banana: Wonderful, replace one fossil with another. You guys never cease to amaze.:deadhorse:
     
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    There is absolutely nothing decent about Clinton (either of them by the way).
     
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    Leopards/spots you get the idea. Need a heart to change it.
     
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    Haha you think the Dems are going to LET her run in 2020 after all that money they blew for a loss? You think they are going to take a chance again on an election against the incumbent President? Odds that the Dems even allow her to run, in my opinion, would be few to none. Right now they are in the beginning stages of setting up their 2020 candidate. My guess is Hillary's already dishing money for them.
     
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    Buy her book. She needs more of your money. Now that The Big O is fetching $400K a speech, she might not be able to pay the taxes on the whole street she bought up in anticipation of becoming President to expand her compound.
     
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    Look, folks, I'm not a big fan of either Clinton. They're both too clever by half for me.
    I am a big fan of having an adult in the White House. That's why when given the binary choice between Trump and Clinton I voted for the latter.
    I would do it again.
     

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