Hitler was not a socialist

Jefferson Davis used that method to fool the poor white trash. He gave them somebody they could look down on. It's what trump does too.

 

Yay, Sinbad was.

 

You can also navigate the desert at night by the stars.. They used sort of a primitive astrolabe called Kamal. Most of the New World explorers like Columbus and Vasco Da Gama used Arab navigators.. as did the Vikings.

 

There's hell--socialism, communism, and fascism competing to find out which can kill the most the quickest. Then there's heaven on earth--individuals reaching for their best to give their best to trade their best to gain the best available in the free market--you know, free men trading freely that which they have for that which they want. Ah, what's the word I'm looking for...oh, yeah, Capitalism--which is just a "capital" idea, and ideal.

I notice that's nowhere on Margot2's political spectrum. Apparently, individual liberty has no value in today's post-modern world.

 

Bid deal. And Hitler used to pat children and pet dogs. And served heroically and admirably in WW I. So, all is forgiven?

 

Nazism: The destruction of a nation, and how and why it happened.

http://www.peikoff.com/lr/home.htm

In brilliantly reasoned prose, Peikoff argues that the deepest roots of German Nazism lie not in existential crises, but in ideas — not in Germany's military defeat in World War I or the economic disasters of the Weimar Republic that followed, but in the philosophy that dominated pre-Nazi Germany. Although it was mediated by crises, Peikoff demonstrates that German Nazism was the inevitable climax of a centuries-long philosophic development, preaching three fundamental ideas: the worship of unreason, the demand for self-sacrifice and the elevation of society or the state above the individual.

"These ideas," Peikoff says, "are the essence of Nazism and they are exactly what our leading universities are now spreading throughout this country. This is the basic cause of all the other parallels."

 

Hitler and the Nazis outlawed socialism, and executed socialists and communists en masse, even before they started rounding up Jews.

In 1933, the Dachau concentration camp held socialists and leftists exclusively. The Nazis arrested more than 11,000 Germans for "illegal socialist activity" in 1936.

In the 1930s and even beyond, nazism, in sharp contrast to socialism, was strongly supported by leading capitalists and right wingers in the US. Henry Ford, the leading industrialist and auto maker, was a great admirer of the nazis.

When Henry Ford announced that he might run for president in 1923, the little-known Hitler told the Chicago Tribune that he would like to send shock troops to Chicago to assist in the campaign. Later in 1938, the year of Kristallnacht, Ford was awarded the Grand Cross of the German Eagle, the highest civilian award given by the nazis.

Ford accepted it with pride, and Ford's company collaborated with the nazis as late as August 1942. General Motors, Standard Oil, ITT, and Chase National Bank (later Chase Manhattan Bank) among others also had major financial investments and collaborations with Nazi Germany.

J. Edgar Hoover, the first director of the FBI (and virulently anti-communist) was a great admirer of the nazis and was a pen pal of Heinrich Himmler (Reichsfuhrer of the Nazi SS, head of the Gestapo, and second most powerful leader of the Nazi party). Hoover sent Himmler a personal invitation to attend the 1937 World Police Conference in Montreal, and in 1938 welcomed one of Himmler's top aids to the U.S.

In June 1939, when the Nazi SS was conducting savage attacks against Jews, Gypsies, and homosexuals throughout Germany, Hoover personally autographed a photo of himself and sent it in response to a request, to KRIPO, the Nazi criminal police agency. He continued communication with Nazi police until December 4, 1941 (three days before Pearl Harbor).*

Nazism is a right wing ideology. It is violently racist, anti-socialist, and it targets the political left for extermination.

This is underscored by Albert Einstein's embrace of socialism throughout his life -- and in particular in his 1949 essay, Why Socialism? -- along with the fact that Einstein's name was included on a nazi death list with a bounty of $50,000 offered for his assassination.

If nazism really is socialism, why would Einstein have identified himself as a socialist a scant four years after WWII?

The current right wing conflation of nazism and the left is sleazy. A more informed population would view this as completely idiotic, but unfortunately this propaganda is becoming increasingly effective.

http://www.csun.edu/~vcmth00m/NazismSocialism.html

 

Doesn't alter the reality that in Nazi Germany there was no "I, just one great big Ayran "We".
It may not have been socialism, Soviet-style, but it sure was socialism, Third Reich style-- just concentration camps instead of gulags; gas chambers instead of machined gunned Kulaks.

 

Well, Too many Americans are poorly educated. Shame really.

 

And too many college educated liberal socialist progressives white-wash socialism's historical record of thievery, poverty, starvation, torture, and mass murder.

Such as this:
"Despite having the world's largest oil reserves, Venezuela is gripped by widespread malnutrition, disease and violence after 20 years of socialist rule launched by the late President Hugo Chavez. Critics accuse Maduro, Chavez's hand-picked successor, of unfairly winning an election last year for a second six-year term by banning his popular rivals from running and jailing others."

 

Margot, you are right....but the big bullseye is BIG GOVERNMENT and NO INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS. That is precisely what Hitler and Socialism and Communism all have in common. We have a political spectrum that keeps trying to drag us left in the same direction. We have an intellectual elite that continues to try and tell us what to say, what to think, and how we should spread our earnings around as well as how to live. Thought police are surfacing all the time as well as identity politics held supreme.

 

Drag us "left"? I don't get that at all.

Orwell in 1944 was brilliant and funny about Fascism.

http://www.alexpeak.com/twr/wif/

 

Odasio Cortez is funny and Brilliant about Socialism. She wants all of us to be forced to give up eating beef....she knows what's best for us. She wants me to work hard so I can pay for people that don't want to work. She wants to use government as a tool to force her idiotic ideas on others because she knows best. If she was a lone crazy that would be one thing, but she has the Democratic Party behind her. Cory Booker, the bi-sexual vegan is another one in that camp as well, along with Elizabeth Warren and many others.
Why don't you define for me what you think Fascism is because I think it is possible (and very likely) to be a fascist and a Socialist. I'd prefer to call them both "statists". They want to use the state not just to provide for common safety, but to control the lives of individuals.