Hitler's Jew-hatred & Holocaust Denial

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    One of the most frequent and dishonest lies of Holocaust Denial, is that Hitler did not hate the collective Jewish people. He "only hated Communist Jews".

    However, his writings in Mein Kamp prove this to be false. He hated ALL Jews. Young and old, rich and poor, Capitalist and Socialist.

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    -The great leaders of Jewry are confident that the day is near at hand when the command given in the Old Testament will be carried out and the Jews will devour the other nations of the earth.

    -The People's State, which I have tried to sketch in general outline, will not become a reality in virtue of the simple fact that we know the indispensable conditions of its existence. It does not suffice to know what aspect such a State would present. The problem of its foundation is far more important. The parties which exist at present and which draw their profits from the State as it now is cannot be expected to bring about a radical change in the regime or to change their attitude on their own initiative. This is rendered all the more impossible because the forces which now have the direction of affairs in their hands are
    Jews here and Jews there and Jews everywhere. The trend of development which we are now experiencing would, if allowed to go on unhampered, lead to the realization of the Pan-Jewish prophecy that the Jews will one day devour the other nations and become lords of the earth.

    -The constructive principle of Aryan humanity is thus displaced by the destructive principle of the Jews, They become the 'ferment of decomposition' among nations and races and, in a broad sense, the wreckers of human civilization.

    -The bourgeois world is Marxist but believes in the possibility of a certain group of people--that is to say, the bourgeoisie--being able to dominate the world, while Marxism itself systematically aims at delivering the world into the hands of the Jews.

    -Russia furnishes the most terrible example of such a slavery. In that country the Jew killed or starved thirty millions of the people, in about of savage fanaticism and partly by the employment of inhuman torture. And he did this so that a gang of Jewish literati and financial bandits should dominate over a great people. But the final consequence is not merely that the people lose all their freedom under the domination of the Jews, but that in the end these parasites themselves disappear. The death of the victim is followed
    sooner or later by that of the vampire.

    -The black-haired Jewish youth lies in wait for hours on end, satanically glaring at and spying on the unsuspicious girl whom he plans to seduce, adulterating her blood and removing her from the bosom of her own people. The Jew uses every possible means to undermine the racial foundations of a subjugated people. In his systematic efforts to ruin girls and women he strives to break down the last barriers of discrimination between him and other peoples. The Jews were responsible for bringing negroes into the Rhineland, with the ultimate idea of
    bastardizing the white race which they hate and thus lowering its cultural and political level so that the Jew might dominate. For as long as a people remain racially pure and are conscious of the treasure of their blood, they can never be overcome by the Jew. Never in this world can the Jew become master of any people except a bastardized people.


    -That is why the Jew systematically endeavours to lower the racial quality of a people by permanently adulterating the blood of the individuals who make up that people.

    -When the Zionists try to make the rest of the world believe that the new national consciousness of the Jews will be satisfied by the establishment of a Jewish State in Palestine, the Jews thereby adopt another means to dupe the simple-minded Gentile. They have not the slightest intention of building up a Jewish State in Palestine so as to live in it. What they really are aiming at is to establish a central organization for their
    international swindling and cheating. As a sovereign State, this cannot be controlled by any of the other States. Therefore it can serve as a refuge for swindlers who have been found out and at the same time a high-school for the training of other swindlers.

    -The Jewish instinct, which never fails where these problems have to be dealt with, readily discerns the true mentality of those whom the Jew meets in everyday life; and those who are not of a kindred spirit with him may be sure of being listed among his enemies. Since the Jew is not the object of aggression but the aggressor himself, he considers as his
    enemies not only those who attack him but also those who may be capable
    of resisting him. The means which he employs to break people of this kind, who may show themselves decent and upright, are not the open means generally used in honourable conflict, but falsehood and calumny.


    -He will stop at nothing. His utterly low-down conduct is so appalling that one really cannot be surprised if in the imagination of our people the Jew is pictured as the incarnation of Satan and the symbol of evil.


    -The ignorance of the broad masses as regards the inner character of the Jew, and the lack of instinct and insight that our upper classes display, are some of the reasons which explain how it is that so many people fall an easy prey to the systematic campaign of falsehood which the Jew carries on.


    -No; the Jews have not the creative abilities which are necessary to the
    founding of a civilization; for in them there is not, and never has
    been, that spirit of idealism which is an absolutely necessary element in the higher development of mankind. Therefore the Jewish intellect will never be constructive but always destructive.

    -In order to form a correct judgment of the place which the Jew holds in relation to the whole problem of human civilization, we must bear in mind the essential fact that there never has been any Jewish art and consequently that nothing of this kind exists to-day. We must realize that especially in those two royal domains of art, namely architecture
    and music, the Jew has done no original creative work. When the Jew comes to producing something in the field of art he merely bowdler-izes something already in existence or simply steals the intellectual word, of others. The Jew essentially lacks those qualities which are characteristic of those creative races that are the founders of civilization.

    That is why the Jewish people, despite the intellectual powers with which they are apparently endowed, have not a culture--certainly not a culture of their own. The culture which the Jew enjoys to-day is the product of the work of others and this product is debased in the hands of the Jew.

    -If the Jews were the only people in the world they would be wallowing in filth and mire and would exploit one another and try to exterminate one another in a bitter struggle, except in so far as their utter lack of the ideal of sacrifice, which shows itself in their cowardly spirit,
    would prevent this struggle from developing.

    -It is much the same with the Jew. His spirit of sacrifice is only apparent. It manifests itself only so long as the existence of the individual makes this a matter of absolute necessity. But as soon as the common foe is conquered and the danger which threatened the individual
    Jews is overcome and the prey secured, then the apparent harmony disappears and the original conditions set in again. Jews act in concord only when a common danger threatens them or a common prey attracts them. Where these two motives no longer exist then the most brutal egotism appears and these people who before had lived together in unity will
    turn into a swarm of rats that bitterly fight against each other.

    -For, though among the Jews the instinct of self-preservation has not
    been weaker but has been much stronger than among other peoples, and
    though the impression may easily be created that the intellectual powers
    of the Jew are at least equal to those of other races, the Jews
    completely lack the most essential pre-requisite of a cultural people,
    namely the idealistic spirit. With the Jewish people the readiness for
    sacrifice does not extend beyond the simple instinct of individual
    preservation. In their case the feeling of racial solidarity which they
    apparently manifest is nothing but a very primitive gregarious instinct,
    similar to that which may be found among other organisms in this world.
    It is a remarkable fact that this herd instinct brings individuals
    together for mutual protection only as long as there is a common danger
    which makes mutual assistance expedient or inevitable. The same pack of
    wolves which a moment ago joined together in a common attack on their
    victim will dissolve into individual wolves as soon as their hunger has
    been satisfied. This is also sure of horses, which unite to defend
    themselves against any aggressor but separate the moment the danger is
    over.

    -But in Munich conditions were far worse. After my discharge from
    hospital, I was sent to a reserve battalion there. I felt as in some
    strange town. Anger, discontent, complaints met one's ears wherever one
    went. To a certain extent this was due to the infinitely maladroit
    manner in which the soldiers who had returned from the front were
    treated by the non-commissioned officers who had never seen a day's
    active service and who on that account were partly incapable of adopting
    the proper attitude towards the old soldiers. Naturally those old
    soldiers displayed certain characteristics which had been developed from
    the experiences in the trenches. The officers of the reserve units could
    not understand these peculiarities, whereas the officer home from active
    service was at least in a position to understand them for himself. As a
    result he received more respect from the men than officers at the home
    headquarters. But, apart from all this, the general spirit was
    deplorable. The art of shirking was looked upon as almost a proof of
    higher intelligence, and devotion to duty was considered a sign of
    weakness or bigotry. Government offices were staffed by Jews. Almost
    every clerk was a Jew and every Jew was a clerk. I was amazed at this
    multitude of combatants who belonged to the chosen people and could not
    help comparing it with their slender numbers in the fighting lines.

    -In the business world the situation was even worse. Here the Jews had
    actually become 'indispensable'. Like leeches, they were slowly sucking
    the blood from the pores of the national body.

    -Now, the truth is that the State in itself has nothing whatsoever to do
    with any definite economic concept or a definite economic development.
    It does not arise from a compact made between contracting parties,
    within a certain delimited territory, for the purpose of serving
    economic ends. The State is a community of living beings who have
    kindred physical and spiritual natures, organized for the purpose of
    assuring the conservation of their own kind and to help towards
    fulfilling those ends which Providence has assigned to that particular
    race or racial branch. Therein, and therein alone, lie the purpose and
    meaning of a State. Economic activity is one of the many auxiliary means
    which are necessary for the attainment of those aims. But economic
    activity is never the origin or purpose of a State, except where a State
    has been originally founded on a false and unnatural basis. And this
    alone explains why a State as such does not necessarily need a certain
    delimited territory as a condition of its establishment. This condition
    becomes a necessary pre-requisite only among those people who would
    provide and assure subsistence for their kinsfolk through their own
    industry, which means that they are ready to carry on the struggle for
    existence by means of their own work. People who can sneak their way,
    like parasites, into the human body politic and make others work for
    them under various pretences can form a State without possessing any
    definite delimited territory. This is chiefly applicable to that
    parasitic nation which, particularly at the present time preys upon the
    honest portion of mankind; I mean the Jews.

    -In my eyes the charge against Judaism became a grave one the moment I
    discovered the Jewish activities in the Press, in art, in literature and
    the theatre. All unctuous protests were now more or less futile. One
    needed only to look at the posters announcing the hideous productions of
    the cinema and theatre, and study the names of the authors who were
    highly lauded there in order to become permanently adamant on Jewish
    questions. Here was a pestilence, a moral pestilence, with which the
    public was being infected. It was worse than the Black Plague of long
    ago. And in what mighty doses this poison was manufactured and
    distributed. Naturally, the lower the moral and intellectual level of
    such an author of artistic products the more inexhaustible his
    fecundity. Sometimes it went so far that one of these fellows, acting
    like a sewage pump, would shoot his filth directly in the face of other
    members of the human race. In this connection we must remember there is
    no limit to the number of such people. One ought to realize that for
    one, Goethe, Nature may bring into existence ten thousand such
    despoilers who act as the worst kind of germ-carriers in poisoning human
    souls. It was a terrible thought, and yet it could not be avoided, that
    the greater number of the Jews seemed specially destined by Nature to
    play this shameful part.


    Any claim that Hitler did not obsessively loath and hate the Jewish people, collectively, is nothing but an ignorant feigned lie, or an act of extreme self-delusion.


     
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    Thought this was already common knowledge that Hitler was the most anti-Jewish person to ever exist.
     
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    As I stated, one of the many lies of Holocaust Denial is to make believe, usually very poorly, that Hitler did not actually hate the Jewish people, religion or culture. He simply hated Communism. They claim Hitler had nothing against non-Communist Jews.

    These quotes from Mein Kampf PROVE that Hitler's hatred for the Jews was all-encompasing and collective.

    The number of Jews Hitler did not hate, can be counted on your fingers and toes: His family doctor who cared for his mom, his WW1 Colonel, some upper-level military staff. Hitler was forced by political considerations to sign Certificates of Aryan Blood for a few very lucky Jews, and Hitler allows tens of thousands of Mischlinge "mixed-blood Germans", who had no more than 1/4 Jewish male ancestry to serve in the Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe, but not the SS.
     
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    The further away we get, the easier denial becomes. I remember reading a NYT piece when Schindler's List was released. It asserted their polling showed more than a third of Americans didn't believe the Holocaust occurred. I was discussing my great-uncle's WW2 service with a millennial last year, and was stunned to learn she'd never heard of Auschwitz.
     
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    I've had a few debates with Holocaust deniers on this forum, and some may crop their heads up here. Heads-up: they tend to copy/paste the same talking points over and over again and refuse to actually debate any of them. Typical Gish gallop stuff that they share with other unhinged conspiracy theorists.
     
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    Sometimes they also now claim "we dont deny the Holocaust, but we only think maybe 200,000 people died. And they were all Communist traitors to Germany so they deserved it."
     
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    LMAO that's still a lot of people getting killed, basically the population of a small city getting murdered.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ok but statistics show close to 6 million Jews were killed in Europe by gassing, shooting, starvation, etc.
     
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    Hitler lost badly. The Frankfurt School fled and brought Critical Theory to the west. The ideology that Hitler tried to kill now holds the keys to power, culture, education and business in every single western nation. Critical Theory is a uniquely Jewish ideology and originated with the Frankfurt School in Germany during the Weimar Republic.

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    I must not be up to date on Holocaust denialism because I was always under the impression that Hitler did not like Jews.... So much so to the extent that he murdered 6 million of them.

    Am I getting anything wrong there?
     
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    Holocaust deniers claim that Hitler did not hate the Jewish people he only hated communists.

    However they then go on to say that communism is Jewish and Judaism is communist.
     
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    Claiming that Hitler did not obsessively hate the Jewish people, is either an act of extreme dishonesty or extreme denialism.
     
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    Hitler murdered 6 million Jews. Hitler must have hated all Jews, dud.
     
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    @Ronstar you're jewish so maybe you can answer this question for me. Why does the statement "The Holocaust" only refer to the deaths of jews in ww2?
     
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    The term "Holocaust" doesn't refer to deaths of Jews in WWII. It refers to the systematic extermination of Jews by Nazis and their allies, with the aim of annihilating the Jewish people.
     
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    He hated Jews, handicapped individuals and gay people. The only people that deny this usually feel the same way he did and if you follow their words express many of the same thoughts although usually toned down.
     
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    And everyone who ever defends or tries to minimize or excuse Hitler's actions hates Jews. Its clear as day.
     
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    Its true, most Holocaust Deniers also loathe the Jewish people. Ironic huh?
     
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    Ill admit Hitler didn't hate a few hundred German Jews. He gave them Certificates of Aryan Blood. But he hated all the rest.
     
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    Most Holocaust deniers loathe anyone that isn’t a white evangelical or Christian.

    How similar they are to the Nazis they support
     
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    The goal and aim of Holocaust Denial is to make Nazism acceptable again, so they can once again try to exterminate the Jews.
     
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    1. Sadly appears some people are either very ignorant of Hitler's hatred of the Jews, or support it.
     
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    Again it's important for people to understand just how much Hitler and the Nazis hated Jews.

    anti-Semitism is very real.
     
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    I doubt the Nazis of today would accept that Hitler was even affiliated with them. Other political parties often deny any link to an atrocity. They usually claim the party "switched" sides.......
     
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    The only Holocaust deniers I've met on the forums have been on the far right.
     
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