Homeland Security chief says back-channel talks with Russia would be 'normal...and acceptable'

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Yeh, maybe someday I'll grow up and start worshipping a bloviating con man because he hates the same people I do
     
  2. superbadbrutha

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    Blathering truth, lol.
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    Yep.
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    Russia did because there was not one with the transition team and the Obama administration was leaking stuff.
     
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    The Head of DHS is a former US Marine General. Who was appointed by BO the Peep as head of US Southern Command in 2012. Before that BO peep had him serving as the commanding general of the Multi-National Force in Iraq from 2008 to 2009. Then as head of Marine Forces Reserve Northern Command in 2009 to 2010.

    Like Most Marine Corp Generals he doesn't have a problem telling those like BO peep and Trump. Just the way it is.

    So that's BS about he is expected to say whatever makes Trump look good. You will need to come up with a better spin job.
     
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  6. The Mello Guy

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    What was leaking back in December? I don't recall any until Flynn was caught with his pants down. If it's so normal why did they lie about it?
     
  7. MMC

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    That's alright.....you don't recall that the Russian interference and info war began back in 2014 either.


    Clint Watts' Testimony: Russia’s Info War on the U.S. Started in 2014.....
    Clint Watts is testifying Thursday morning before the Senate’s intelligence committee on Russia’s interference in U.S. politics. Here’s what he told the senators.

    On 26 October 2015, I authored a post at the Foreign Policy Research Institute (FPRI) entitled “Russia Returns as al Qaeda and the Islamic State’s Far Enemy” noting:

    “The Russians have used social media-driven information campaigns to discredit the U.S. for years. Facebook and Twitter remain littered with pro-Russian, Western-looking accounts and supporting automated bots designed to undermine the credibility of the U.S. government.”

    Just a few weeks later in November 2015, the FBI visited FPRI, notifying their leadership that I had been targeted by a cyberattack. The FBI didn’t say who exactly had targeted me, but I had a good idea who it might be.

    In the 18 months prior to the above quote and in the three years leading up to today, two colleagues and I watched and tracked the rise of Russia’s social-media influence operations witnessing their update of an old Soviet playbook known as Active Measures.

    For me, I began watching these influence operations in January 2014 after I co-authored an article in Foreign Affairs entitled “The Good and The Bad of Ahrar al Sham.” Hecklers appearing to be English-speaking Europeans and Americans trolled me for my stance on Syrian President Bashar Assad. But these social-media accounts, they didn’t look right—their aggression, persistence, biographies, speech patterns and synchronization were unnatural. I wasn’t the only one who noticed this pattern. Andrew Weisburd and J.M. Berger, the two best social-media analysts I’d worked with in counterterrorism, noticed similar patterns around the troll discussions of Syria, Assad, al Qaeda, and the Islamic State.

    Shortly after, in April 2014, we noticed a petition on the WhiteHouse.gov website. “Alaska Back to Russia” appeared as a public campaign to give America’s largest state back to the nation from which it was purchased. Satirical or nonsensical petitions appearing on the White House website are not out of the norm. This petition was different though, having gained more than 39,000 online signatures in a short time period. Our examination of those signing and posting on this petition revealed an odd pattern—the accounts varied considerably from other petitions and appeared to be the work of automated bots. These bots tied in closely with other social-media campaigns we had observed pushing Russian propaganda.

    Four general themes outlined these propaganda messages:

    · Political Messages—Designed to tarnish democratic leaders and undermine democratic institutions· Financial Propaganda—Created to weaken confidence in financial markets, capitalist economies and Western companies· Social Unrest—Crafted to amplify divisions amongst democratic populaces to undermine citizen trust and the fabric of society· Global Calamity—Pushed to incite fear of global demise such as nuclear war or catastrophic climate change
    .....snip~

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/03/30/russia-s-info-war-on-the-u-s-started-in-2014

    Naturally you lefties of the leftness don't want to talk about when and how the Russians upped their game. All during your very special mans time in Office and with your Party governing the country.

    Which of course we know why you avoid all that incompetence.
     
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    Well truth for you must be only imagination since you cannot back up your accusation.
     
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    At least we've now agreed Russia interfered....took long enough. Although I notice your post made no attempt to answer my question.
     
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    We agreed that Russia has been interfering just like they have since the 1950s. That which you lefties have forgotten.....and never tried to use an excuse like you have for the Massive Lost the Demos took in 2016.
     
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    Ut oh. Have you broken the news to Hillary? She is still struggling with an apparently ocd need to baldfaced lie about everything. Getting her to only lying by omission, would probably require a brain transplant.
     
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    Lolol, I can come up with plenty of republicans who are comparable. In fact we could go back and forth one for one all day.
     
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    Good question. Why don't you look into that.
     
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    Leaking since the election.
     
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    When Obama did this EXCACT THING...it was "just fine", with the lyingass Fake News media.

    A member of the Trump Adm. does it, and the left has a cow, and the Fake News start right in with the lies about it.
     
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    LOL, if Pres. Obama farted folks like you were pissed off that he didn't ****. If you are admitting that he did it, then how in the hell is it fake news.
     
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    They didn't they were never asked about it and it was never implemented, it was just a request by the Russians.
     
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    Maybe someday you'll learn to worship something other than hate.
     
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    The Fake News is the pretense that it is , somehow, "wrongdoing"= complete bullshit.

    Whenever your flaming hypocrisy is pointed out, you start in with this friggin' nonsense.

    Get used to it..Obama will be held accountable for the illegal spying he was/is responsible for...what and see.
     
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    So why all the hyperbole over it this this time, they've done it for years, we've done it for years it will go on as long as we have governments so why all the faux outrage about it this time.
     
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    So that meant he could leave it off his disclosure forms?
     
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    Ask your party, they are the ones conducting investigations in both houses
     
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    Had the class to recuse from the ridiculously corrupt House joke of an investigation which the sleazocrats have been sabotaging from the start, to try to get a "special prosecutor" to drag their madeup nonsense and lies out as long as possible.
     
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    We already got the SP, appointed by a Trjmp appointee lol
    This is the shittiest conspiracy ever....you're blaming your own party lol
     
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    And you will be sorry.

    Mueller is no grandstanding attention whore like Comey, or even Ken Starr. He's a lawman, and not beholden to Obama, who will be the ultimate target of this.
     

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