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Very true. Here Real News speak about how the US sanctions harmed the people of Venezuela

https://therealnews.com/stories/un-rapporteur-us-sanctions-cause-death-in-venezuela

a report that came out later estimated that in one year US sanctions on the people of Venezuela led to 40,000 people losing their lives. Sanctions are war against civilians. People are beginning to talk of them as torture.

 

Communism/socialism is antithetical to everything American. They chose the wrong ideology if they’re looking for good relations with the U.S.

Leftism has failed over, and over, and over. They must be idiots.

 

I thought America believed in Democracy. Even if it does not, why do you believe the US has the right to harm people who do not have the same opinion as the US

 

Who cares? Why do we need to know this?

 

What do you mean by "support"? Give them money? Give them arms? Cheer them on when they have a good idea? Shout "hurrah!" when they've done something good?

 

Like any country, we act in our own interest. It is not in our interest to have communism alive anywhere. It’s an evil ideology.

 

And the bottom drops out of the oil market, which was by FAR their main source of any money. Mind, communism/socialism certainly hasn't helped the situation any but saying it was entirely due to "communism" is definitely not right either

 

Then you definitely don't want your main spokesperson to say he is "in love" with possibly the most oppressive communist leader in the entire world, do you?

 

I was shocked when I first saw a John Pilger Documentary that the US was supporting the shooting of striking workers in Latin America...or so he said. I was even more shocked when I heard someone in the US admitting they did this 'for National Interest'. That national interest was for the US to get more money on the dead bodies of others.

You say

I would say, though I don't really believe in evil believing all people can change, but I would think if something were evil it would be killing or endorsing the killing of people who are fighting for the right for a days work to have enough money to buy food for their children in order that the richest country in the world can have a bit more....and resolving that was roughly what brought Chavez into power in Venezuela

I would say this is a very inhumane system we have been experiencing.

Never mind peace could be around the corner. We need to save the planet. I am guessing because of your politics you will be a climate denier. I may be wrong and I will admit it is very strange that what people think on scientific things now most of the time depends on their political leaning but it seems that. Even if you are a climate denier despite the reality that the climate emergency is more than obvious in the US, I know this will change soon. So we will be getting a new economic system. Not one which is apart from other aspects of life, not one which only wins by killing people and taking their resources...You should check out Ecological Economics. That is the future if we have one and it is not Neo classical Capitalism - that is out. You get your choice Your Life or neo classical economics which have been failing even the people of the US since the late seventies early eighties despite ever growing GDP. It isn't communism either. It is something else. Check it out. That is the future you cannot escape and it looks a lot more wholesome.

 

Compare life in America with life in China under Mao or in the Soviet Union under Stalin.

 

That was not what I was talking about. That is the old thinking which will need to go...but to be frank I do not think it matters whether someone kills you because they want your money (the strikers) or someone kills you because they don't want your thoughts - I am imagining that is what you mean by Mao or Stalin.This is just sooo interesting. I am listening to top economists speaking about the dreadful economic system we have been living under. What is for the future is neither the killing of workers for money or the killing of workers for thought but a completely different way of living. You really should start watching some of this.

 

Actually, it went really well under Chavez as soon as he took control. Malnutrition and poverty% all nosedived etc. It really was no paradise under right wing control. They did what they did for the rich elites. Massive amounts of people were really poor. Hence they voted that guy in,.. big time... again and again. The country now is just sanctioned into poverty. The population is being punished to vote left by the US. Takes a real einstein to come up with the idea that it's all due to socialism. American right wing capitalism does this.

 

Oh come on. He makes all kinds of promises that he is unable to keep.
The trade gap is still utterly and utterly massive.
He lowered the taxes, so people marvel at how much money they are making because of that.
But the dept is growing massively as well. It's a sham.

 

Yeah, look - it's a brave person who supports Trump.
Not many Republicans like him either.
I suppose the Republicans felt he was the best chance in an
extreme and toxic political environment - this says something
about the American people more than the politicians they
vote.

 

Socialism goes well at first by confiscating private property and using the funds to pay for their programs. Eventually there is no private property left to take because “the rich” have either fled the country or been taxed out of existence.

Then socialism crashes and burns.

 

That's communism. And the only reason why things get nationalized, is do drive out foreign owners. It's putting your own countries interests first. Like maga.

In Venezuela's case. A bunch of snobs who got their positions through bribes and nepotism.
That's how things go in that country. It didn't start with Chavez.

 

Nationalizing industries and kicking out foreign investment is the most idiotic thing a country can do. Once that happens, no one wants to do business with you. They will never invest in your country again.

 

Wow. You need to read a good book on Stalin-Lennin-Trotsky and their mentality and methods.
Good Youtube videos current on the Hoover Institute and Stephen Kotkin.
https://www.hoover.org/research/why-does-joseph-stalin-matter

“If you're interested in power, [if] you're interested in how power is accumulated and exercised, and
what the consequences are, the subject of Stalin is just unbelievably deep, it's bottomless.”
– Stephen Kotkin

Foreign ownership is not the issue - it's things not Communist-owned.
Into this caricature of rich people as snobs, bribes and nepotism you might want to add the current
batch we know of - Elon Musk, Steve Jobs, Jeff Bezoz, Mark Zuckerberg etc..These people are
changing the world - and the poor today enjoy a standard of living better than the emperors and
pharaohs of our past. Communists and Socialists contribute nothing - their brief is about power
and who should have it. Pretty much what kids are taught in uni under Foucault and Derrida and
doctrines of post-modernism and existentialism.

 

It's far better to be your own boss, and keep your own profits as a nation to invest in your own nation. It's not as if having foreign nationals setting up sweatshops accomplished anything for a country like Bangladesh. It only caused people working there from starving to death, while massive profits left the country. There is a reason why a country like US uprooted democracies in the past in Latin America. Their multinationals were being cut off from making massive profits.

 

Has nothing to do with Chavez.

 

Right. It’s better to be an international pariah like Venezuela is today.

 

Not directly, anyhow. But history shows you can't bring about your socialist utopia unless
you are willing and able to exert maximum violence. Alone in the Soviet leadership, Stalin
could do this. Mao got close to this sort of power.
You see, Socialism is not about
1 - ruling over a corporation (as in Hitler's National Socialism)
2 - owning a corporation (as in Lenin's internationalist Socialism)

It's about total control over everything.
Socialism is about taking control of the guy who sells fish at a market, or owns a house.
In Venezuela they said they would only expropriate land from rich people who had over
1,000 hectares. And then they moved the goal post to 500 hectares and then 250 hectares.
In the end you must take everything off everyone. Only The Party owns anything.

No Capitalist, in their wildest dreams, could begin to imagine power like this.
Rockefeller had in today's value about 400 billion dollars - that's about 2% of the USA's
economy. Lenin and Stalin owned 100% - and this is where Venezuela wants to go.

 

The country not being allowed to trade the stuff they make, just crashes their economy.
It is what it is. American right wing nationalistic economics is doing that.

 

It seems you're totally unaware. But political parties like the labor party in the UK are all over the EU. That kind of socialism has nothing to do with communism.

That's not how it goes down in the EU with labor like parties all over the place.