Hong Kong- 53% of all HIV cases due to homosexual sex

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  1. sec

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    http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_...142904&sid=41670805&con_type=1&d_str=20140226

    Wow, given the small % of people who engage in homosexual sex, that figure is staggering.

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    Homosexual sex has been blamed for the highest number of new HIV cases in 30 years.

    An expert said unless men who have sex with men, or MSM, consistently practice safe sex, there will be another record high this year.

    The Centre for Health Protection said yesterday that homosexual or bisexual exposure was responsible for 295 of the 559 newly reported cases last year, with 137 infections through heterosexual contact.

    The 559 new cases was the highest for a single year since records were first kept in 1984 and marked an 8.9 percent rise on the 513 cases in 2012.


    IMO, it seems that despite the public messages, the education and low cost of condoms, that a particular demographic will not heed the warnings. Such a terrible disease and it could be avoided in 2 ways. One is to change their activities and the other is to slide into a little sheepskin. What is it going to take to make that small segment of the population open their eyes to the danger?
     
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    So the other 47% is coming from heterosexual sex or from blood transfusions?
     
  3. Levon

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    Just stop with these homophobic facts..........it makes people uncomfortable.........and we certainly don't want that
     
  4. texmaster

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    I dont know why this would be a surprise. The anal cavity as we all know through science is designed to excrete fecal matter not be penetrated by a penis so its no surprise male homosexual sex would spread the disease more easily.

    And the CDC agrees.

    Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM))a represent approximately 2% of the United States population, yet are the population most severely affected by HIV. In 2010, young MSM (aged 13-24 years) accounted for 72% of new HIV infections among all persons aged 13 to 24, and 30% of new infections among all MSM. At the end of 2010, an estimated 489,121 (56%) persons living with an HIV diagnosis in the United States were MSM or MSM-IDU.

    http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/gender/msm/facts/index.html
     
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    Wow that is staggering. Cue the left wing denial.
     
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    How does that question change the facts in the OP?
     
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    There is also the sharing of drug needles, and some other possibilities, like getting into a bloody fight with an AIDS victim. But I think that the point of the OP is that for a 2% demographic, having 53% of HIV cases is outrageous. Particularly since "MSM" know that they are at much higher risk than the general population.
     
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    This is sad. I've never understood what is so difficult about wearing a condom?
     
  9. sec

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    the link in the OP would have answered that. 24% were from heterosexual sex so who knows what the balance 23% is, perhaps drugs?

    What you obviously missed is that, and I'll have to use a USA Gallup poll where 96.6% of adults are straight heterosexual.

    Let's say that Hong Kong has more homosexuals and put them at 5%. That means that only 5% of the population accounted for 53% of the total infections.

    That is absolutely staggering especially given that there are 2 simple ways to avoid becoming infected.

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    I've never understood the fascination some people have with anal sex (regardless of the sexuality) - that's why I'm glad I'm not gay - I'd hate having to stick it (or be stuck) in the pooper as my only option.
     
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    Provide a legit link with actual data please Tex.

    Estimate is just a guess. Unless you provide a study with actual solid data with words other then estimate, your link is just garbage and you lose.
     
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    the link is from the cdc, feel free to address that with them
     
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    Uh, its the CDC Walter. :roflol:

    LOL You really need to read the entire quote:

    young MSM (aged 13-24 years) accounted for 72% of new HIV infections among all persons aged 13 to 24, and 30% of new infections among all MSM.

    No estimates.

    Are you denying that homosexual males contract AIDS more often than others Walter? :roflol:

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    Too funny. You can't make this stuff up.
     
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    Ah, so the key words such as ESTIMATE are ok to use in the links arguing against homosexuals, but when advocates provide links with the same key words, such as ESTIMATE, COULD BE and what not, their links are garbage?

    LMAO, you haters are hysterical!
     
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    Eh. I've tried it. It's just messy more then anything.

    But hey, different strokes and all that.
     
  16. texmaster

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    I just gave you the part of the quote you missed that wasn't an estimate.

    Same question Walter, Are you denying that homosexual males contract AIDS more often than others?

    Can you answer the question?

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  17. sec

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    who here is "arguing against homosexuals"?

    The thread is fact based. There is no argument to have.
     
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    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    Of course you see what I did. EVERYBODY can see how lame that dumb ass argument is you use. My post was made simply to prove that point. And obviously, you see it as well.
     
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    Do you actively search this stuff out or do you just have an RSS feed that is set to collect any news that has anything remotely gay in it?
     
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    Uh Walter, I quoted Cubed for that picture not you.

    :roflol:
     
  21. WalterSobchak

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    Ah, so you actually CAN'T see how lame your arguments are??

    LMAO
     
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    Nothing lame about reality.

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    See Walter? I responded to Cubed with the picture, not you.

    :roflol:
     
  23. texmaster

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    I see Cubed's quote and my response which never addressed you. Hence the line in the post when you respond to more than one person. Obviously you missed that. :roflol:

    What am I missing Walter?
     
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    comment

    it is sad that a leftist appears to make it his mission to derail this thread. The thread is fact based and very troubling. It should trigger good discussion that a few of us have had yet for some reason, a leftist doesn't like the facts and is attempting to get this closed.
     
  25. hseiken

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    Two reasons.
    1.) Lack of education. Homosexual communities tend to be more nonchalant about partners than straight couples. Why this is, I couldn't tell you. Maybe it's the lack of fear of accidental pregnancy. If I knew I could (*)(*)(*)(*) anyone I wanted and there's no risk of pregnancy, I'd (*)(*)(*)(*) a lot people too.
    2.) Being gay isn't a choice so your proposed 2nd option is really abstinence altogether, but that falls under the first option, so it's really only one option. Education and precautions.

    I mean, are you suggesting that gay dudes are simply addicted to penis like a meth head is addicted to meth and they simply cannot help their addiction? I'm trying to pick apart how your brain is working on this one, but I keep coming up short and simply see someone who lacks understanding of the topic yet keeps finding random stuff to make sure they're not dumb and ignoring things that make them look dumb. It's some kind of insecurity of being knowledgable of the topic. I don't even claim to be knowledgeable, but it's really easy REALLY FRIGGIN EASY to test if you can choose to be gay: You choose to be gay and see if it is something you like. But obviously you can't do that so literally, the one thing you can do to prove yourself right, that it is a choice, you refuse to do. And what better subject than yourself?
     

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