Horse Paste Officially Horse Sh*t — Science

Lols! The “research” paper he quoted is quite notorious because it was backed by “America’s Frontline Doctors” the group that has been scamming people with useless prescriptions for ivermectin

Politifact did not do a bad breakdown

https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/jun/30/what-know-about-pro-ivermectin-groups-study-toutin/

plus this https://physicians.northernhealth.c...r-COVID-19-Prophylaxis-Treatment-01July21.pdf

 

After I stopped laughing I decided to answer this as a great case study that proves my comments:

If you had read more than two seconds before smashing out a response you could have answered your own questions.

Thanks for proving my point about not wanting to know so painfully obvious.

 

Yes - it received the award in 2015 for the treatment of parasitic infections. But it has not been seen as effective for covid. In fact, because of the increased dosages recommended, US poison control centers received a "flood" of calls regarding overdoses.

The false hope around using ivermectin to treat COVID-19 originated from an April 2020 laboratory study in Australia. Although the results from this study were widely circulated, I immediately had serious doubts. The concentration of ivermectin they tested was 20 to 2,000 times higher than the standard dosages used to treat human parasitic infections. Indeed, many other pharmaceutical experts confirmed my initial concerns within a month of the paper’s publication. Such high concentrations of the drug could be significantly toxic.

Another commonly cited paper on ivermectin’s purported effects against COVID-19 was withdrawn in July 2021 after scientists found serious flaws with the study. These flaws ranged from incorrect statistical analyses to discrepancies between collected data and published results to duplicated patient records and the inclusion of study subjects who died before even entering the study. Even more concerning, at least two other oft-cited studies have raised significant concerns about scientific fraud.

At the time of this writing, two large randomized clinical trials both showed no significant benefit from the use of ivermectin for COVID-19. Reputable national and international health care organizations, including the World Health Organization, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the National Institutes of Health, the Food and Drug Administration and the Infectious Diseases Society of America, unanimously recommend against the use of ivermectin to prevent or treat COVID-19 unless in the context of a clinical trial.

Ivermectin, when used correctly, has prevented millions of potentially fatal and debilitating infectious diseases. It’s meant to be prescribed only to treat infections caused by parasites. It’s not meant to be prescribed by parasites looking to extract money from desperate people during a pandemic. It’s my sincere hope that this unfortunate and tragic chapter in the otherwise incredible story of a lifesaving medication will come to a quick end.
https://theconversation.com/ivermec...nning-wonder-drug-but-not-for-covid-19-168449

 

And thanks for proving you have NOT a considered those factors

it is a supposed systematic review but they are only as good as the research papers they contain and the ones included in that “study” were most *****

 

Not to mention the studies that examined APOC countries where widespread usage of Ivermectin has been on-going since 1995 and found:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7968425/

APOC Countries with a Community-directed treatment with ivermectin strategy show 28% lower mortality (RR= 0.72, 95% CI: 0.67-0.7 and 8% lower rate of infection (RR= 0.92, 95% CI: 0.91-0.93) due to COVID-19; compared with non-APOC countries.

https://wentworthreport.com/2021/12/26/global-ivermectin-adoption-for-covid-19-now-39/

“They don’t give ivermectin to prevent COVID, but to prevent parasitic diseases,” Ozaki said at a February news conference. “But anyway, if we look at COVID numbers in countries that give ivermectin, the number of cases is 134.4 per 100,000 and the number of deaths is 2.2 per 100,000.”

He went on to compare those numbers with rates from countries that do not administer ivermectin.


“Now African countries which do not distribute ivermectin: 950.6 cases per 100,000 and 29.3 deaths per 100,000.”

Countries that did not close their borders and went to vaccines as soon as possible:

• USA – 2,509 [250k]
• UK – 2,161 [120k]
• Germany – 1,319 [40k]
• France – 1,871 [100k]
• Canada – 788 [20k]
• Italy – 2,265 [50k]
• Russia – 2,077 [25k]

Countries that did not close their borders and, after alarming infection, mostly adopted ivermectin:

• India – 342 [8k]
• Indonesia – 519 [< 1k]
• Japan – 146 [< 1k]
• Egypt – 205 [< 1k]
• Peru – 6,016 (the country hit hardest, until they used ivermectin) [6k]
• Columbia – 2,510 [ 3k]
• Venezuela – 188 [< 1k]
• Nigeria – 14 [4k]
• South Africa – 1,502 [20k]

 

I like how you double linked. the one with the alleged data is a crackpot BS site.

 

Again I love how the claim is that Ivermectin is being pushed by people trying to make money, when it costs next to nothing and is a generic drug.

The "vaccines" on the other hand, are themselves experimental trials on living hosts and are held by a patent at about $35 per dose.

 

Which didn't do much. The big game changer was omicron. Which everyone got.

Imagine needing to destroy the global economy and two years to finally come to the same conclusion. How embarassing

 

Says the people using Politifact and Wonkette for their knowledgebase.

Hilarious.

Ivermectin has been widely used by countries with far fewer deaths than the western world and it's "vaccines".

 

Here's the part that's truly ridiculous:

What's the harm in letting people use Ivermectin if they want it? Clearly there is a huge amount of what is at least anecdotal evidence from dozens of countries pointing to the possible benefit.

An off label drug that nobody profits from that costs like $3.00 for a bottle of 100 pills that might save lives, and has far fewer potential side effects than their "vaccine".

No, the zombies can't have that. You must not have a choice. Your doctor must not be allowed to prescribe anything that the hive mind does not agree with.

You must call it horse dewormer. You must denigrate it and anyone who wants to use it. You must not ask questions. Thou shalt not question the high priests of The Science.

Zombies. They're zombies.

 

A body of cases can be found to support ANY claim. It all comes down to how many cases you have that aren't contradicted by how many more. To paraphrase Napoleon: "Reality is a lie, agreed upon"

 

I'm sorry but if it requires a masters degree to understand it it's pretty much worthless to most of us. Mostly the data just tells us that it's pretty common to have some form of covid but that you probably won't be more than inconvenienced with it while you get over it.

 

No commentary on the fact that countless studies have concluded that it was not intended for nor effective for covid? Perhaps even dangerous considering the dosage prescribed?

 

I think it's like masks. Probably not going to do much for you but if it gives you peace then by all means.

 

No commentary on the fact that NCBI has numerous studies on it's apparent effectiveness and widespread adoption in places like India?

Every prescribed medicine is dosage related. Even frickin aspirin, which is available over the counter, can kill you if you take too much.

 

The headline readers claim you need a masters degree to understand things.

We now live inside a meme.

 

India stopped recommending the use of ivermectin for the management of the virus in September, citing a lack of scientific evidence of its benefits. Researchers at the Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) did not find enough evidence for Ivermectin and Hydroxycholoquine as potential therapeutics targeted against COVID-19.*

While cases appear to have fallen in Uttar Pradesh as well as most locations in India, it’s not clear why. Many other factors, including immunity from a previous infection, vaccination, and lockdowns, likely helped reduce the number of cases.
https://www.newswise.com/factcheck/...-india-has-not-been-proven/?article_id=761091

Also, there is no data on how many people in Uttar Pradesh took ivermectin at any point in time, making it impossible to show any connection between ivermectin use and falling case counts. As for Japan, the month that cases dropped also saw 20% more of the population were vaccinated and the country was on a strict lock down.

 

Why the hell do you care if someone wants to take ivermectin...(not horse paste) to treat COVID? Does it effect you in any way? Either it works, or they get omicron and are "vaccinated" naturally.

Doesn't effect you in the slightest and not worth your concern. It never was. It also doesn't effect you if they elect to not wear a mask...practice social distancing or anything other then minding their own business.

Thanks for wrecking the global economy though!

 

Your doctor can prescribe anything he wants to. What's problematic is people buying out veterinary supply stores all on their own

 

It wasn't just Uttar Pradesh, it was a wide number of regions that both did and did not administer Ivermectins.

Speaking of evidence, there is zero evidence lockdowns or masks worked either. The idea of a lockdown in India's major population centers is downright comical. A population density map of Delhi would burn your eyeballs out.

So here we have a country with a staggering amount of population density in it's cities, a 3-5% "vaccine" rate, horrible sanitation, not great medical care....that also saw a dramatic reduction in Covid cases.

I'm willing to ask why that was. Many are not.

 

No. They can't.

Nobody is buying out veterinary supply stores.

More people have died from the vaccine than your horse dewormer.

 

Hmmm - you might want to do a quick google check 'vet supplies run out of horse dewormer'. Owners of the stores reported shortages/sell outs across the country.
https://kjzz.org/content/1716592/phoenix-livestock-store-keeps-selling-out-ivermectin-horse-dewormer
https://www.fastcompany.com/9067044...worming-drug-because-people-want-it-for-covid
https://www.newschannel5.com/news/n...er-as-people-seek-unproven-covid-19-treatment
https://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/...medicate-covid-19/APOGTTT4FBH2NEQ6XHR6B6UOPE/
https://slate.com/technology/2021/08/ivermectin-covid-cure-farm-supply-stores.html
https://floridapolitics.com/archives/454017-cow-dewormer-sold-out-in-florida-covid-19/

 

Uh huh.

Here is a current list of the 168 other drugs facing shortages in supply stores.

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/drugshortages/default.cfm

On the other hand, you can purchase your horse paste directly from Amazon and have it tomorrow.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Ivermect...prefix=ivermectin+past,aps,331&ref=nb_sb_noss

Perhaps you could compare/contrast the number of deaths from horse paste and the "vaccines".

 

I was addressing your comment: Nobody is buying out veterinary supply stores. If you want to switch the topic, that's fine.

 

Yes, and it only took the highly infectious Delta variant before it was considered the "accepted reliable consensus science." Prior to that some of them were talking about 'COVID zero' being achievable which as far as I know was highly debated.