Hot Take: Nazis were not evil for their time.

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  1. Aquarius

    Aquarius Well-Known Member

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    Okay back then everyone thought Eugenics was a fact of life. There was a lot of pseudo science and they genuinely thought they were improving the human race.

    Everything is about perspective.

    if the Nazis were alive today they would be considered evil because the science disproving eugenics.
     
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    Hitler was right. Donuts ARE delicious...
     
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    Ah, if only Jack Napier were still here ...
     
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    science disproves eugenics? prove it.

    selective breeding has been, practiced by aristocrats and slaveowners, family brokers of arranged marriages and discerning humans since long before history,

    the nazis had many bad ideas, eugenics was not one of them.
     
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    My bad, their type of eugenics was disproven. Way to cherry pick what you said. eugenics in general even if elitist is not necessarily evil if it betters humanity.

    The Nazi race eugenics was disproven.
     
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    Trying to remember when it was OK to put people in ovens ... Nope, f***ing Nazi were alway dicks, no matter what part of history they were from.
     
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    They viewed them as subhuman waste to be discarded to improve humanity. They were wrong in retrospect but cut them some slack given the historical pseudoscience influencing them.
     
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    No - they were wrong then. What did Christ say about murder 2,000 years before the Nazi were murdering people? They were wrong no matter what.

    Gods - a "Christian" trying rationalize the Nazi - what next.
     
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    They didn’t view them as people, they viewed them as monsters subhumans. Keep cherry picking words. Oh and even if they did murder and sin they believed it was for the greater good. I am not saying Nazis were saints, WWII was a lot more morally gray than you think.
     
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    WWII and the Holocaust were two different events. There was no "grey" area when it comes to the Holocaust - that was evil through and through.
     
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    You seriously want me to cut the Nazis some slack?????????????

    They murdered family members of mine. I know their names.

    Do you give abortion doctors any slack?
     
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    No it wasn’t, also more natives and blacks were killed in the colonization of America I don’t consider that evil either.
    Btw the Allies in WW2 would cringe at todays left and probably ally with the Nazis lol.

    I am saying it is morally grey because it was based on knowledge of the time. Now racism and sexism is evil
     
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    you dont consider the genocide of the native americans, and black slavery in the USA to have been evil things?

    huh
     
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    No, there are arguments for and against slavery in the bible. It is morally grey. I oppose slavery and colonialism but at the time they thought they were making a better world.

    Woke politicians use Godwin’s law and I cringe every time.
     
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    The Holocaust is the least grey area one can think of.
     
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    So what's the over/under on bans resulting from this thread?
     
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    In its historical context it really isn’t. Knowing what we know now it is of course.

    I am loving leftist politicians always invoke Godwin’s law to slander the right, so I did a big Brain move and made this topic
     
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    I am not saying the Holocaust was not a horrific event caused by human ignorance and stupidity.

    I am not a Nazi sympathizer.
     
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    One cannot be a Christian and also a Nazi sympathizer. They have to choose one or the other.
     
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    Which emphasizes how evil they were, and brings into question the rationality of anyone who would try to defend them. beatinoff_zps3b07b48c (1).gif
     
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    You just play one on an internet forum? 1584414801.3623-smiley.gif
     
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    Jesus did not say, "Thou shall not kill ... unless some scientists tells you about eugenics ...". And that was 2,000 years before the Holocaust. Just
    stop with the pathetic, "... it was ok for the time, bullcrap ..."
     
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    About as good as him probably being a left wing plant. :)
     
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    I can recognize them as reprehensible by modern standards but realize they thought they were doing what was right. They were not evil but did evil things if that makes sense.
     
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    Agree 100%. Judaism forbids murder since Creation.

    I do not believe Jesus was the Messiah, but he was a Jew.
     
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