Hot Take: Nazis were not evil for their time.

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  1. CCitizen

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    Aquarius starts many offensive threads, but this is beyond wrong.
     
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    No, they were evil.
     
  3. CCitizen

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    Sadly Torquemada was a Christian.
     
  4. Aquarius

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    I am allowed to have opinions. If this forum is so woke that it bans me for recognizing the evil that was the Holocaust but understand the moral complexity of the perpetrators.
     
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    Even the vast majority of people from the 30s and 40s would disagree with this take. This idea that the nazis were not evil is idiotic no matter what period in history you are from
     
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    There is moral complexity, I am allowed an anonymous opinion. You are allowed yours this is a discussion. I am not trying to get anyone banned but am being persecuted for my beliefs even though I said the Holocaust was evil.
     
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    No one said you're not allowed

    You're allowed your own opinion, whether it is right or wrong, good or evil, astute or inept. You have the same right to your opinion as anyone else, and whether or not your opinion classifies you as being in the former or latter groups doesn't make you a victim.
     
  8. Aquarius

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    I am being plotted against and it does make me a victim.
    There are literal people talking about banning me
     
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    In hindsight it seems like we always knew the Nazis had extermination camps, but this was discovered toward the end of the war.

    In any case, it's still one of the least morally ambiguous events in world history.
     
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  10. Aquarius

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    I am not saying the Holocaust was morally ambiguous. I am saying the perpetrators were not even given the belief system of the time. I am glad that Allies took down the krauts though don’t get me wrong.
     
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    Margaret Sanger believed in family planning, a kind of eugenics yes. That’s not that evil. Family planning is still around today. US puts native Americans in reservations and attempt to culturally destroy them. That was pretty bad. The Nazis butchered a 1/3 of all Jews on the planet in the span of a couple of years. Nazis are pretty ****ing evil. I don’t know what would be worse than genocide.
     
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    Their belief system was evil - for ANY TIME. End of story.
     
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    Trying to defend it...
     
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  14. Aquarius

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    You sound fun at parties and in intellectual discourse. Doubling down that all evil events are the results of simply evil people and there is no moral complexity.

    Btw most Jewish people would cringe at your black and white thinking. Many Jewish people I know tell Holocaust jokes and stuff. I mean I had one friend (idk if he was Jewish) who told me his dad died at Auschwitz’s falling off the guard tower.

    Mel Brooks and many others mock nazism.
     
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    I think most would be running and working at Planned Parenthood to be brutally honest!
     
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    Wanting to better humanity based on pseudo science of the time was not evil. It was misguided and complex. The evens that occurred were evil and we should look into Nazi psychology to prevent future bigotry.
     
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    I don’t even want to try.

    “I have Jewish friends so I can defend the Holocaust!”
     
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    Haven't seen you mocking Nazis in this thread. Quite the opposite, actually... NsphD.gif
     
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    Lmao, never defended the Holocaust or the perpetrators. I just said the perpetrators were not just pure evil.
     
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    Lmao, most people can take jokes and telling someone an offensive joke based on whatever oppression they claim helps them feel special. Plus you are mocking bigotry.

    Oh and I don’t believe there are many Jews in this thread. If anyone claims to be Jewish and I see them in other threads bash Trump… They are Jewish in Name Only and certainly not friends of Israel.
     
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    Yeah that’s defending the Holocaust. I mean if you’re going for the banality of evil then go for it. But you’re not. You’re literally not.
     
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    You are being elitist and using intellectual gymnastics to discredit my argument. I literally said the Holocaust was a tragedy and evil. I just don’t view Nazis as pure evil boogeymen.
     
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    You are saying the only reason people think the Nazis are evil is because their science was wrong. That’s not saying the Holocaust was wrong. That’s saying the Holocaust was wrong, conditionally based on the science being proven wrong.
     
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    What do you mean the perpetrators were not even given the belief system at the time?
     
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    NO ONE IS UNDER ANY OBLIGATION TO SHARE YOUR VIEWPOINT. DEAL WITH IT.
     

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