House Bill 1441 - Do fathers get a say in the abortion of their unborn child?

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Heretic Sentinel, Feb 26, 2017.

  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    Duck, bob, weave :) Try again: Oh ,and then prove ALL women are like this and why it's "bad" ...

    BTW, how are women more bossy than men?

    Here's some fun, give an example of a woman being "bossy".

    To get back to the topic, do you want men to be bossy and tell a woman whether or not she should have an abortion????
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't need to prove anything. You are the one struggling to prove something without actually being able to articulate anything. Either you are a woman or you feel a need to prove your worth to them bossy old things. Quite Oedipus-al up in here.
     
  3. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    You claimed something and that means the onus is on you to prove it....you can't even answer simple questions about your silly "claim":


    Duck, bob, weave :) Try again: Oh ,and then prove ALL women are like this and why it's "bad" ...

    BTW, how are women more bossy than men?

    Here's some fun, give an example of a woman being "bossy".

    To get back to the topic, do you want men to be bossy and tell a woman whether or not she should have an abortion????






    I have a feeling that any woman who doesn't knuckle under to a man is "bossy" in your opinion and a man doing the same EXACT thing is NOT bossy in your opinion...
     
  4. Deckel

    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't need to prove the sky is blue. It is blue, and women are bossy. People who feel compelled to defend women are either a woman or a man who sees women as weaker and needing a man to defend them. Which is it with you as I notice you avoid answering that question by continuously reposting the same question that has been answered over and over again.
     
  5. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    So if you claim you answered the questions you did? Funny , no where in the thread did I see where you answered those questions and no one else can see it either :)

    Weak men will...oh nevermind....:)
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course you are gonna nevermind and throw up your hands, Ms. Hastings. Anything to avoid revealing that you are a woman and that every one of your posts reveals that you think you can boss people around.
     
  7. diamond lil

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    Did you have a strict Nanny, Deckel? Most men that are scared of women either had a strict nanny or a strict teacher when they first started school.
    It's time to take responsibility for yourself and not look to others to do it for you.
     
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    Zeffy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hey Fox, you know that saying about casting pearls? Might be something to keep in mind.
     
  9. FoxHastings

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    :) Doesn't matter whether I'm male or female , I KNOW I can boss people around and I do it well and often...:roflol:

    Read post 107 :nana:
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have no desire to read post #107, and you are bossy because you are female. It is in your DNA just as if you had a third arm, or were super fascinated by spinning plates.
     
  11. FoxHastings

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    :roflol: HOW did you know about my PLATES!!!! Got me!!

    I guess you are against men having a say in whether a woman gets an abortion because , ya know, "bossy " isn't nice no matter who does it . Right?! RIGHT?!!!
     
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    My issue is that people are under the impression that the only women who seek abortions are those who are outside of relationships or not in contact with the father. That is simply not true. More than 45% of abortions that do take place are an agreed upon decision. Women have even identified about 25% of the time that one of their reason for having an abortion is pressure from the fathers. While married women (or those in stable relationships) are less likely to have abortions than those who do not, it's not that they never do. This is simply a method of control. Pure and simple. If people honestly believe that men are not as pro-choice as women do not pay attention to the number of absent fathers out there.

    Abortion is the business of the woman obtaining it and who she chooses to involve in that choice. Pure and simple.
     
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    My issue is, how will the potential father prove paternity?
     
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    The important thing here is freedom. It is a woman's right to have an abortion. Anyone who tries to force her to give birth is just being bossy!!!

    On a side note, (For entertainment purposes) the discussion about bossiness above is a little misdirected. A woman's propensity to be bossy is an important trait when it comes to raising children. Having raised 5 kids, I know the importance of keeping them in line. My wife is extremely good at it.

    On the other hand, if that bossiness is directed towards her mate, it is likely she will find herself alone.
     
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    If a husband is bossy towards his mate should he find himself alone?
     
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    One would think so. I have found that it is an equal partnership.
     
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    A well-meaning bill, however, so many women getting their children yanked and cut apart or otherwise aborted are unmarried---about 83%. So they don't really care all that much about their male sexual partners.

    I think this should be a state by state issue, for now. With luck, the Supreme Court will overturn R v W in the next few years, then leave it up to a national vote.
     
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  18. FoxHastings

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    No, American women have the right to their own bodies in ALL of America.

    What you're suggesting is a form of slavery, the man owning the woman...you might need a reverse Civil War for that.

    ...and the Court that ruled on RvW was Conservative :)...and even Conservatives don't want to destroy the Constitution.



    Leave it up to a national vote? Fine, most Americans, however they feel personally about abortion , think it should be legal.
     
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    There is actually something to this suggestion. I would say that rather than do this - if there is no consent of the sperm donor to carry child to term - then the woman should have no right to go after him for child support.

    Forcing one person to be responsible for the financial consequences of the unilateral actions of another is a violation of the Rule of law.

    Such a rule would lead to a decrease in the number of children being born without the sperm donor's consent.
     

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