House expands Civil Rights Act!!!

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you can not discriminate based on gender or race, so yes, just like any other customer
     
  2. WillReadmore

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    Usually there is public accommodation law that covers businesses who serve people who walk into a place of business and there is employment.

    I don't know how susceptible you bar would be to a lawsuit. But, I'd sure laugh if the bar ended up belonging to someone who was refused service!
     
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    Yes, but that's just an argument for might equals right. Taking the judge dredd argument of "I am the law!!!" just ignores the fact that there are some laws that have been changed because they were dead wrong.

    It's like the school yard bully demanding that every other kid give him their lunch money because... well, that's what he says, and it's either that or you go home with broken bones and a rearranged face.

    Where is the moral argument?
     
  4. Soupnazi

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    No we do not use it

    It simply works on its own

    It is not a distribution system. Private enterprise distributes nothing private business owners SELL goods and services which is not the same thing

    The SC based their decision on a false hood which you keep repeating even though it has been proven false
     
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    That law is based on a complete lie. Much like your false claim of distribution.

    No private business is a public accommodation.
     
  6. Soupnazi

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    Yes they do regardless of the year.

    Discrimination is a basic and sacred human right which you practice and which I practice and which we all practice

    Society is a meaningless concept with no rights.

    Anti discrimination laws are just as evil and oppressive as Jim Crow laws.
     
  7. Soupnazi

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    It is not my thought or opinion it is fact and irrefutable that every human has the right to discriminate for any reason they choose.
     
  8. Ronstar

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    not in the USA, the EU, and many other nations.

    we have trascended such bigoted concepts.

    do you think Apartheid and the Nuremberg Laws were ok?
     
  9. Soupnazi

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    It is bit a bigoted concept

    No one is defending bigotry I am defending the right to discriminate based on anything including bigotry

    People have the right to discriminate and everyone does it including you. It harms no one

    People also have the right to be bigoted and we have transcended nothing. There is no WE in this

    No I oppose all those laws and Jim crow and the CRA.

    There is no excuse for any of those laws they are all equally immoral.
     
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    You do not have the right to discriminate against anyone you like. This is legal fact.
     
  11. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    banning discrimination is a bigoted concept??????????

    talk about Newspeak!!!

    LOL!!!! :p
     
  12. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    discrimination robs people of the ability to fully participate in our society.

    if we killed the Civil Rights Act, which you claim to seek, blacks, Jews, Muslims, Asians, women, anyone who is not a white christian male would face hateful discrimination in the many less-enlightened parts of this country.

    no jobs, no hospitals, no police, no housing, no schools, no shopping.

    and you seem to be ok with such a prospect.
     
  13. Soupnazi

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    You most certainly do have that right unless you are a business owner and then your rights are legally violated.
     
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    Typo

    It is NOT a bigoted concept.
     
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    Discrimination does no such thing and takes nothing from anyone.

    When a woman asks me out and I discriminate but saying NO it takes it robs nothing from her.

    If a business owner says no straight people allowed in my store it does the exact same thing.

    Discrimination is strictly the exercise of a personal preference

    It harms no one whatsoever

    Nothing would change if we repealed it. Few would act different and those who do would not matter
     
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    Yes, some laws don't work - that's always an issue. But, it's not an argument for no law.

    And, no, it is absolutely NOT like your schoolyard bully. In fact, it is the opposition to there being a schoolyard bully.

    The moral argument can be seen in our founding documents.
     
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    Our capitalism absolutely does NOT just "work on its own". In fact, our system is not pure capitalism for very good reason. Pure capitalism wouldn't have an SEC or patent law or many of the other basic controls that we use to make capitalism work for us.

    We have all sorts of laws oriented to preventing many of the harms capitalism can wreck upon us.

    Having people and enterprises buy and sell goods and services is how our system causes goods and services to be distributed.

    I don't know what mistake you think the SC made or what you think has been proven false.
     
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    "Public accommodation" is a term created to identify specific kinds of businesses. It includes businesses that have open doors to the public. It includes storefronts, hotels, restaurants, etc. It does not include private clubs or businesses that buy and sell on contract to other businesses.

    That's how it is defined.
     
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    The SEC does noting to protect anyone especially from capitalism .

    Patent laws protect individuals by securing their rights from thieves not from capitalism.

    Yes it does work fine on it's own.

    No laws you can name do anything to protect people from capitalism they only expand government power as an end until itself.

    What has been proven false is the claim that a private business is a public accommodation

    What has also been proven false is then idea that WE distribute goods through private business

    What has also been proven false is then idea that discrimination harms anyone
     
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    It is a false definition made up by the court to justify oppression

    A private business is not a public accommodation by definition
     
  21. Ronstar

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    you feel oppressed because its illegal for your to refuse service to a Jew?

    you feel oppressed because its illegal for you to refuse housing to a Muslim?

    you feel oppressed, because its illegal for you to refuse to hire a black man?

    wow, just wow
     
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    Just as you would feel oppressed if it were illegal for you to say no to an unattractive man who hits on you..

    Discrimination is a human right I support human rights you oppose them.
     
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    Why do we need the federal government at all? It's expensive and inept.
     
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    Libs always look to the government for protection. What weenies.
     
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    No one is arguing for NO law.

    The law which forbids discrimination by private citizens is a law for bullies which you defend

    Every human has the right to discriminate

    You allow the government to selectively forbid certain people from doing what everyone has the right to do.
     

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