How Did Donald Trump cheat in the 2016 election?

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  1. Heartburn

    Heartburn Well-Known Member

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    You guys are pitiful. that's all this impeachment charade is for, to build an excuse for losing again. There are so many lies from the left that I doubt anyone over there can remember the truth anymore.
     
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    Didn't Trump pay a foreign source for a dossier?....no wait....
     
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    Didn't Trump put government spies in his opponent's campaign? ...no wait...
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Democrats don't need to build an excuse. Trump has already built one for them. And the one he gave them is built on facts.

    Republicans could easily remove this "excuse" and legitimize all of Trump's presidency and ensure a legitimate re-election so overwhelming that there wouldn't even be a need to cheat. Bring the witnesses and make the documents public.

    Oh... wait... He'd need to be innocent for that to work. Well... back to the drawing board!

    Because you do know he's not, right? Republican senators certainly do.

    So I guess cheating is the only option Trump has left. That's Ok. It's what he has done all his life....
     
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  5. JusticeOne

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    Trump didn't cheat Hillary tried to but failed along with the FBI, Cia, NSA and the justice dept.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    So there you have it folks. Trump was on his own against a worldwide conspiracy that included Hillary, the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, the Muslim Brotherhood and flying saucers sent from Andromeda for the purpose of electing Hillary.
     
  7. Heartburn

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    Innocent? That is a broad statement but he isn't guilty of the crap the Democrats are pushing.

    Why didn't the Democrats in the House call all the witnesses they wanted? Trump didn't claim executive privilege even once.
     
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    opion8d Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh right. Why couldn't Nunes & Company call......
    a) Joe Biden so they can do a campaign preview
    b) Hunter Biden so he can tell everyone where to get the best steak in Kiev
    c) The whistle blower so they can identify him for a right wing hit squad. There are, after all, tons of death threats out there from Trump's "good people."

    Are Republicans really that dumb or are they all corrupt and desperate? Or, do they think everyone is as transparent and dumb as they are.
     
  9. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    You seriously believe there are "right wing hit squads" out there? Who have they killed?
     
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    opion8d Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, I do. So do the Secret Service that are giving the whistleblower armed protection 24/7. They may not be organized into squads, but they sure as hell are out there.

    If I were the whistleblower, I would go into the witness protection program or leave the country. Either is a terribly unfair choice for a public servant just doing their duty. This is what we have become.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    So it depends on what the meaning of "is" is...?

    Quoting Trump as if he weren't a pathological liar doesn't count as a rebuttal. My point remains unchallenged: if this is an "excuse", as you stated, then the Republicans could easily expose it by bringing all the witnesses and documents. You didn't even make an attempt to rebut my point.

    Your really need to ask that? Of course he didn't claim executive privilege. Because it doesn't apply. What does apply is abuse of power. Hence Article 2
     
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    Prove it.
     
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    opion8d Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think the Secret Service is enough proof of imminent danger. What do you consider proof? Bullet holes?
     
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    ~ I suppose some politicians could say TRUMP did indeed cheat - he broke the rules of political engagement. This is "not allowed " in campaign culture of today's politics.
    He told the truth about political hacks, dysfunctional government, political bribes , and favoritism of other countries interests before our own. He dared to point out illegal immigrants negative effect, a weakened military and bad trade deals. He made it clear that America was losing economic strength and independence. He told the truth -and Americans listened. Then we voted...
     
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    You have proof the Secret Service is protecting the whistle blower?
     
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    opion8d Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's a well reported news story
     
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    Off topic: It's just a gear purchased from amazon for 20 bucks and Elizabeth Warren can wear that one too, it's for all true Americans. Then what about your avatar :giggle:
     
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    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    Post a link then.
     
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    He cheated by promising to represent the working people. That the two parties wouldnt.
     
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    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    A broken campaign promise is not cheating.
     
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    My question was why didn't they call the ones they now want to call?
     
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    I did not quote Trump at any time.

    Why did Democrats not call the witnesses they now claim are essential?

    What abuse of power? What did he do that absolutely stopped the House investigation?
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's my business partner Mosby.
     
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    Figuratively speaking, you did. More like you paraphrased him. Why is this relevant?

    For the same reason Trump is being impeached (see Article 2)

    Oh, for God's sake. A President of the United States is being impeached right now. Most likely a President you voted for. And you don't know why he's being impeached?

    Every patriotic American should be glued to their TV throughout the process. And if there is any circumstance for which you have been unable to do this, then you shouldn't be here. You should be catching up right now. Google, YouTube, the archives of different networks.... That's where you need to be. They get paid to inform you. We don't

    BTW, you might not be able to inform yourself by watching Fox
     
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    You have no proof he did that, or dodged the draft.
     

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