How easy is it to build an "assault rifle"...

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Some posters claim that it would be useless to ban assault weapons because it's "easy" to build an assault rifle. So I looked up some articles on how to make guns and ammunition.

    Guess what... they're WRONG! (I wonder if they ever tire of being wrong all the time)

    What follows is basic research from the same webpages that teach you how to make guns. Which I will NOT provide links or references to, because I have ZERO interest in helping to teach people how to make guns or bullets. And I also have NO interest in learning how to make guns. So what I mention here are the difficulties THOSE pages list.

    Sure it's "easy" to build an "assault rifle" if you buy a KIT. OBVIOUSLY if we ban assault weapons, we will also ban "kits" to build them.

    Now... you could shop for parts. But you would find most would be outlawed. Webpages explaining how to build them would also need to go, or hold the people who publish them responsible if they are used to commit a crime. Of course, they could still have them in foreign servers, or in the dark web. But see how the difficulties add up?

    Shopping online for the appropriate parts would be difficult. Very likely they'd have to import them. And that increases the likelihood that they will be caught. The tools to build one, would be extremely expensive. A 3D printer is extremely expensive and unreliable. And you can't print a whole assault rifle. You have to print it in parts. All of them have to be precise. And the screws to hold them together have to be nanometrically accurate. More likely you'll print a gun that blows up in your face before it shoots anybody.

    And then the bullets. Cleaning and preparing the material requires a lot of work or special and very expensive equipment. The amount of powder in each bullet has to be very very precise. Or the bullet will either not shoot or it will blow up the gun. Same goes for the dimensions of the bullet. And then you need a primer. The part that propels the bullet Forget it! It's theoretically possible to make your own with very expensive tools (you won't be able to buy them, of course). The cost keeps adding up.

    Now... the shooter in Uvalde had about 1600 rounds of ammunition with him. Easy to buy that in Texas. Can you imagine the time it would have taken him to make all those bullets?

    So stop the nonsense! Ban "assault weapons". Which includes banning parts, kits, bullets, the tools to make them... If a shooter still wants to try to make their own gun and ammunition, they will find it difficult, time consuming, expensive and dangerous.

    The objective is to reduce the number of mass shootings, and reduce the number of victims when there is one.
     
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    BTW, from what I've seen... looks like it's more expensive to build your own assault weapon than to buy it. They can only make it less expensive if you start off by buying ready-made parts. Which, in this scenario, would be illegal. So there again you add ANOTHER stumbling block for most shooters who just want to go out in a killing spree. Thus saving more lives.
     
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    Good to see you put assault rifle in quotes to show the inanity of the term.
     
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    Why go though all the trouble of building one when I could probably have one brought over from Mexico?
     
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    An "assault rifle" is just a semiautomatic rifle that looks like a military rifle. I can take an ordinary semiautomatic rifle and do what is done with most assault rifles. One advantage to the assault rifle is that they are a bit shorter and easier to handle. If accuracy is not that important, I can cut off the barrel off of an semiautomatic rifle.

    The first time I fired an M-16, my impression was that I really like this weapon. It is compact, accurate and very comfortable to fire. Because of the smaller rounds, a magazine similar in size to that of a larger caliber weapon will hold many more rounds and is not nearly as heavy.

    An AR-15 is not a military weapon, It lacks the select fire which gives the M-16 such capability.
     
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    It's always the appropriate term if it allows us to communicate. And you didn't appear to have too much trouble understanding what I was talking about, did you? So looks like the name is good enough.
     
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    The term is misleading. Those not familiar with guns, hear the term "assault rifle" and they think in terms of military weapons. An "assault rifle" is not a military weapon. No self respecting military would use one. It is merely a dangerous looking semiautomatic rifle.
     
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    Apparently not.

    One can hope. There's poetic justice in that notion.
     
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    Can you? Is it easy to buy guns in Mexico? I don't know their laws, or the gun sale laws of any other countries, so that's a good point. We would have to make that illegal as well.
     
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    So what? All such high-capacity weapons should be banned, whether we label them as assault rifle or military rifles, or if we call them what they really are: mass murder tools.
     
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    All guns are "dangerous looking" to anyone sane, with more than two brain cells to rub together. These are not playthings and should be scary ... they are designed to kill people.
     
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    Because the emphasis is on assault rifles which is a misleading term.
    We have guns in our house, but no AR-15s. They are not designed to kill people. If that were there purpose, then they are a failure in our house because they have never killed anyone.

    They are in our house for self defense. Houses like ours in a rural setting get broken into and sometimes the residents get killed or badly injured. Law enforcement is at least fifteen minutes away. More likely longer. We would be dead before law enforcement arrived.
     
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    Mine are designed to kill people only if the person intruding into my house decides he wants to be killed. He can avoid being killed by simply not breaking in. Whether my gun is a killing machine is up to him.
     
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    Meanwhile the elite spend 10 million swiss francs deploying 5,000 special operations troops, with air to air missiles, sniper rifles, fully automatic rifles, attack dogs, etc.... for a single day at Davos. They of course will ALWAYS have their person and property protected. The plebes don't need protection, they can rely on the cops like the rubes in Texas did.

    PRO-TIP:The only way the elites will ever succeed in banning guns in America will be over the bodies of millions. This is not an issue that will be solved with words, it can only be negotiated with raw power and the willingness to kill masses of people. Quit pretending that there is a way to disarm the American people without massive and genocidal violence (ie killing orders of magnitude more people than the entire number of people murdered in America's history).

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    fire extinguishers are designed to extinguish fires. most of them are never used for that purpose, but are they failures?
     
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    On more time: this is not about YOU!!!
     
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    OK. I will reword.

    Most guns in private homes are designed to kill people only if the person intruding into the private home decides he wants to be killed.

    Same people doing the intruding. Only the home owner is more inclusive.
     
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    Its not about you.
     
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    Its not about you.
     
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    Why do you want to disarm the good guys?
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is not necessary to buy kits. They are called replacement repair parts.
     
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    Of course it is. I'm the only one doing research here. So it's all about MY research.

    Even when projecting you have a lot to learn
     
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    Really? You are the only one doing research here?
     
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    READ the OP!!!
     
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    You stated an unsubstantiated opinion.
     

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