How important to you is it that the US remains a white race majority country?

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How important to you is it that the US remains a white race majority country?

  1. Extremley important

    8 vote(s)
    8.9%
  2. Very important

    8 vote(s)
    8.9%
  3. Somewhat important

    4 vote(s)
    4.4%
  4. mildly important

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    2.2%
  5. Not important at all

    60 vote(s)
    66.7%
  6. I look forward to the day when white people are not the majority

    3 vote(s)
    3.3%
  7. Other

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    5.6%
  1. Bluesguy

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    Glad you acknowledge that the late 1990's welfare reform worked. Now acknowledge it was Gingrich and Kasich welfare reform Clinton was forced into signing and that the Democrats rolling back those reforms as a disaster for the lower classes.

    When we get more Republicans in Congress.

    Don't you have to get them out of high school first? And why should the child of a successful black doctor get a free college education but not the white son of a coal miner in Virginia?
     
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    The issue here is not the color of the persons skin. The issue is SOCIETY and the differences/similarities between black society and white society and other societies.
    The real question should be is it important we have more the characteristics of a white European/American type of culture and society or African/American type of culture and society or Asian or Hispanic. Which is better for American? Which produces the most successful outcomes? What mix?

    For instance what characteristic of African/Black society that is prevalent to that society would we be better if the other societies adopted more of that characteristic? Would it be better if African/American society adopted more White/American culture and societal norms or White/Americans adopting more African/American culture and societal norms?
     
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    It's less important to me than keeping America divided is to the left. Promoting division, hatred, racism, bigotry and ignorance is the lefts' cause.
     
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    Race is VERY important to liberals who want whites to be a minorty
     
  5. John Sample

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    What is important to me is that our culture remain founded on the classical liberal ideas of Western Civilization.
     
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    It is predominantely, although not exclusively, cultural. Denying genetics is foolish, however, people who push this narrative are often not too well-educated on the matter themselves and only speak of it because they have a malevolent and collectivist agenda.

    I am not too interested in biological, racial differences myself as I see it as a too shallow of a way to judge a man. I have no knowledge other than that there are biologic differences between the races. However, these are not very necessary at all for building a society and in the social interaction that fosters culture, haplogroups, DNA and what not are too invisible and hard-to-understand for the common man to grasp.

    Culture plays the biggest role and no one can possibly say that they would rather live with people of the same colour but of different values rather than people of different colour but shared values with oneself.

    But, this is extremely complex and a very foreign question for a non-American to ever understand. As an European, I do not have much good to say about "Americanness" as I regard it as a fake ethnos because otherwise, Americans would - like you yourself - be more concerned with culture (which is intertangled with ethnicity, which is connected to race) rather than with "Whiteness" contra "Blackness".
     
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    Ethnicity is a socio-organic phenomenon. Organic in the way that it is related to a real, historical descentdant. A shared bloodline, connected to- and developed in a certain ecology and specific environment. Social in the way that it is kept together by a shared language, mythos and struggle. Social in the way that it has occured naturally as people interacted to fulfill the purpose of maximising the best possible social outcome.

    America is a nation of immigrants - People who left their organic ethnos in pursuit of a better life. Brits, Irishmen, Frenchmen, Germans, Swedes, Norwegians, Italians and Jews have mixed and to fill out the gap that a lost ethnos creates, they have filled it out with the very shallow and arbitary identity of "White". Harshly put, what constitutes "Whiteness" is "not being Black" and this is a very foreign and modern system of social classification and the reason why other people look at the US thinking they are rootless and people of no culture.

    It is best compared to the identity of second generation immigrants in Europe that - in an ethnic sense - are nothing and try to fill out this lack of ethnos with made-up labels such as "Turko-German" or "French-Algerian" or, sometimes, even as "immigrants" although they have not migrated. Being "Anerican" stems from the same feeling of ambigious emptiness.

    Americans only shared history is that of having been either secteristic Christian cuckoos or starving farmers and people who coughed up their lungs on land as they docked in the "New World". America is a young nation with no authenticity.
     
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    What will it take for America to be an "authentic nation?" Do we need to subjugate more people? Have a French style revolution with beheading machines? Become a monarchy and switch back? What is "authentic?"
     
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    I do believe balkanisation is both natural and necessary to build a functioning, high-trust society. This does not necessarily - or at all - mean that balkanisation has to be based on race, more optimal is if it is based on culture and ecology (the two are very much connected). Balkanisation also ensures an institutional competition that can establish a more natural and beneficial political landscape for all.

    I am a big fan of secession and believe that the many theoretical maps that have been drawn would serve great in practise too. In the context of US, this would mean the emergence of new nations such as Cascadia (Liberal hell-hole culture), Mexically (Hispanic culture), Dixie (stereotypical American, Conservative culture) and New England (Anglon, hard-working, industrial culture). In here it would be easier for the people to create their own ethnos as they share a culture and hidtory and since Blacks have been part of America for about as long as Whites, they could be integrated too.
     
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    Unfortunately, Balkanization seldom has a happy outcome. The Balkans are of course the case in point. Splitting India up didn't work real well either, and there were wars every few years until both sides had nukes. Splitting the US in two didn't work. After that disastrous war, it is something of a miracle that we haven't been fighting a guerrilla war ever since. So I am not a fan of secession.
     
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    Trying to show their dependence on your charity.

    Socialism. Control the resources and you control the people.
     
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    This is a good time to point out that there is no such thing as a white race. There is the human race and white ethnicity.
     
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    Ethnicists.
     
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    This post is really quite alarming. You don't care what color a person is or where you came from just as long as you don't ruin America and turn it into the place you came from....so which part of America are you trying to protect from this horde of barbarians? Bakersfield? Lubbock? Mobile? Fargo? Gallup? Or are you afraid Beverly Hills or the Hamptons will turn into third world hellholes? Say a person immigrates here from a shamba in Kenya. Ever been to a shamba? Its a beautiful little village protected by a wall of thorns, swept daily with little huts arranged in a circle with families working together as a unit. Is that something to be discarded in favor of little houses on the prairie? Both are very nice solutions to regional living conditions. Or do the slums of Cairo seem worse then the slums of Mississippi to you?
     
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    My concern is that people will come here for welfare benefits. I worry that they will come and vote for ever greater welfare benefits. I worry that they will come here and vote to turn us into Venezuela.
     
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    People don't come here for welfare, that is absurd. They come here to work and to live in a place that will let them escape the hell holes they came from and become something. Immigrants work their tails off. I know, I was once one of them.
     
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    Skin color is just superficial,
    I would say, what's important is the IQ and patriotic dedication of the American people as a whole.
     
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    I do not know.

    I know that I am not White.

    I am Jewish -- most White nationalists would not consider me white. I do not consider myself White.
     
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    Agree 100%.

    All Humans are Created Equal.
     
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    One reason I do not consider myself an American is that I get no help for my Disability. USA is not a great nation in terms of Human Rights.

    I am not a Russian. I am not an American.
     
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    Can you expand on that?
     
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    Sure, its called sarcasm.

    From my point of view.

    For those that actually care about race it means that as long as they make the rules it doesn't matter if they have the numbers or not as long as the "privilege" belongs to them.
     
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    Gotcha. Sarcasm is tough to nail down via text.
     
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    By American culture you meant Cheeseburgers and Coca-Cola?
     
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    People were put on separate continents for a reason. It's called Asia for a reason. Because Asians are there. Its called Africa for a reason. Because Africans are there. Race mixing is wrong. Throwing your DNA into the garbabe bin. You cannot get that back later. You change your DNA structure, you're done.
     
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