How is Christianity not polytheistic and idol worship ?

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  1. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Jews and Muslims believe God is one being - one mind, one thought, one entity. Christians come along and bring up this Trinity concept - Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

    Now, the concept of a Trinity is nothing new - it is found in Hinduism and even in some ancient Egyptian myths. My question is, is what is the definition of God to Christians if they are willing to be so Mr. Potato Head with how the define one being ?

    Either Jesus is the Father or he is not the Father - if he is the Father he cannot and has no need to exist at two places at the same time. Who did Jesus pray to if not some one bigger than him ?

    The other issue I have is idol worship - the OT says God is a spirit yet Christians have statues and paintings of Jesus all over the place. And when the go to church they often kneel in front of a crucified Jesus. Isn't that pure idol worship ?
     
  2. YouLie

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    The first question isn't a question.

    He prayed to the Father. Does that answer your question.

    Some Protestants do believe that's idol worship. I don't give it much thought.
     
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    taikoo Banned

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    So would you start thinking if someone made a pile of crucifixes and bibles and
    dumped sewage on them? bought your church and used it to show porn?
     
  4. YouLie

    YouLie Well-Known Member

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    All of the above happens now. Why would that make me "start thinking" about the practice of Catholics kneeling to statues of Christendom?
     
  5. Incorporeal

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    Did you ever hear of the psychological expression "Id, Ego, and Superego"? Three beings all tied up in one. Hmmm.
     
  6. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    It is either polytheistic or entirely nonsensical:

    Polytheistic Trinity - Christians worship multiple deities, which contradicts the Bible. Sort of. There are several verses in the Bible that point towards polytheism, but Christians ignore these.
    Monotheistic Trinity - Christians favor this, however if the Trinity is the same entity, then the entire story is nonsensical because of the paradoxes that arise with omnipotence.
     
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    ok, i guess i was off on a tangent there, like that you dont distinguish between the symbol and the thing. Im sure you are smarter than that, never mind. (where is my wet noodle...)

    - - - Updated - - -

    Gee, if you really really really think about that who knows what insight lies ahead!!
     
  8. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    Is your hypothesis a possible admission that you don't know?
     
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    taikoo Banned

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    your confusion between a question and a hypothesis is a sign. You might want to really really really think about what its a sign of!
     
  10. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    Only one problem with your misrepresentation:
    "Gee, if you really really really think about that who knows what insight lies ahead!!"

    Your declaration does not ask a question, because it does not end with a '?'.
     
  11. smallblue

    smallblue Well-Known Member

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    Clever Accounting.


    :thumbsup:
     
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    crank Well-Known Member

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    catholics are fond of paraphernalia. smells n bells, relics, weeping angels (not the scary dr who ones), shrouds, etc. heck, they even have shops in this country - selling nothing but fan merchandise!
     
  13. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    So do atheists:
    See here:
    https://www.atheists.org/shop
     
  14. Judge Judy

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    Or your post is entirely nonsensical, yeah, we'll go with that. We do not play by your rules just because you try and make us choose between your A and B answer so C your way out of here.

    Your post makes sense,sort of. It make no sense... Ahahaha !!! God and his Spirit are two deities ? That is like saying you and your soul are seperate deities..God has a Spirit which is the Holy Spirit and Jesus is God's word in the flesh which is why he said confusing things like - "For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken."

    LOL ahahahah !!!
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    You have done nothing to contradict my argument, either they are separate or they are not. Pick one.
     
  16. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    No need to ... you are self contradictory. Remember, I have been on this forum for quite some time, and have seen a whole bunch of your writings.
     
  17. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Citation needed, or ignore list needed.
     
  18. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    Citation needed for what? Ignore lists don't work because you will still have access through the "view post" tab or through the quotes made by other members.
     
  19. Judge Judy

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    You would have to present an argument first,after that you wouldn't need me to contradict it, I'm sure it would do that all on it's own..Ahahaha!!!

    Separate ? That wasn't even one of your choices,you said polytheistic or nonsensical and that isn't an argument, it was a statement of nonsense and opinion ... I pick C
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Present and argument or refrain from quoting me.
     
  21. Judge Judy

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    OK.Freddy vs. Jason, who would win the fight ? I say Freddy hands down.
     
  22. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    I assume you are a teenager, possibly 14?
     
  23. Swensson

    Swensson Devil's advocate

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    So the ten commandments aren't a big deal to you? I assume that means you agree that the presence of the ten commandments is not what brings morality?
     
  24. YouLie

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    I don't know what you're trying to pull here. I don't give much thought to Catholics kneeling in front of statues. Someone among us Protestants obviously did give it some thought, thus the differences in the liturgies.
     
  25. Judge Judy

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    Would that make you feel better or worse ?
     

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