How many members would like a firearms discussion area

Are convicted felons too dangerous to own guns?

His convictions were vacated. You keep forgetting that.

 

AR500 or better steel, and most steel target manufacturers give a minimum range of 100 yards for rifle.

 

How does any law stop secondary sales? Why are secondary sales between law abiding citizens a problem?

 

Thanks again.
I rarely shoot steel targets (Mild, low carbon steel) with a rifle & usually save them for pistol practice.

 

True... but you can do the same with .223 and an 80gr VLD. Barely.

 

I can do it with 77 gr BTHP, but I shoot those out of a 24" barrel at 5000 feet above sea level. I already have a 6.5C; I really couldn't find a niche for the Valkyrie.

 

Yeah.. I shoot at +620. Lake Erie is my backstop

 

I got to shoot with the Burris guys out to 1300 last fall. Hope I get to do it again this year.

 

Smarter than you, bubba.

You use the rhetoric of the gun banner, denigrate firearms rights, and sneer at gun rights supporters... and we're not supposed to acknowledge the hate and vitriol that infests every word you post? You use hyperbole and canned catch phrases in place of legitimate argument.

 

I sneer at you so called gun rights supporters because you’re idea of gun rights extends to felons, the underaged and mentally unfit. The concept of not being “absolute” applies to these exceptions as well as some firearm types ; always has in every SC decision. It is constitutional to regulate firearms because the 2A is not “absolute.” To think it is not shows an extraordinary amount of denial and/or ignorance. For you to fail to see the difference doesn’t matter to me...you’re just a misplaced vote. For PAC like the NRA, it’s criminal, especially when they behave as they do.

 

Remember the other day, when you learned how to use the ignore button...

 

How did the federal law regulating machine guns stop felons from using them ?
Secondary sales between law abiding citizens is not a problem. So there is no need to stop secondary sales, just regulate them. Secondary sales between citizens and unidentified felons is a problem. Regulation worked for machine guns. It will work as well for every firearm.

 

Short answer? It didn't.

 

More hateful, petty nonsense. Maybe it is time to pull the ignore switch on you. Clearly rational discourse is utterly beyond you.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2018/07/24/i-used-to-hate-guns-and-the-nra-then-i-was-mugged/

 

If they are too dangerous to legally own a firearm, then they are too dangerous to ever be allowed free in society and thus devoid of a reason to be released. Incarcerate them for the duration of their existence, or euthanize them. It is not that difficult of a concept to understand.

 

It did not. Fully-automatic firearms were never commonly used by criminals to begin with, unless they were stolen from military bases and national guard armories. Handguns are the most commonly utilized firearms for all criminal purposes, because they are easily concealed.

Except that such regulations would require the registration of every single firearm in existence in the united states. Such was implemented long before fully-automatic firearms ever became common and widespread in the united states. The same cannot be done for all other firearms, as there are hundreds of millions that are unregistered, and thus impossible to find.

 

Never mind the state cannot show a compelling interest in having on record the owner of each of the 356,000,000 guns in the US.

 

The fact that some regulation is Constitutional doesn't mean that any regulation is Constitutional.

 

“Except that such regulations would require the registration of every single firearm in existence in the united states. Such was implemented long before fully-automatic firearms ever became common and widespread in the united states. The same cannot be done for all other firearms, as there are hundreds of millions that are unregistered, and thus impossible to find.”

Wrong on both accounts. Canada no longer registers guns and still has universal background checks. As far as 300 million guns
Being too much to handle, you need a refresher on modern computers. You know one computer with a 64 bit system easily handles 1.8 x 10^12 bits. 300 million registrations is child’s play for just one commercial computer.
You guys as usual are living in the past. Thousands of machine guns were in the public’s hands when it became a crime to own an unregistered one. It didn’t take long for the rest to surface when rewards were offered and owners knew it was a federal crime.

 

Sounds like double speak. This statement means nothing. Regulation is regulation. We already regulate age, felony status and mental status for primary sales. Are you saying it’s unconstitutional to regulate all sales in these areas ? Wrong, sone states do already and they have not been successfully challenged. Two states have banned assault weapons as defined by their legislation and it has been thus far upheld.

 

I'm saying that not all regulation of firearms is Constitutional, and the state bans have only been upheld at the Circuit Court level. We'll see how a conservative majority SCOTUS looks at their reasoning.

You do realize that the 4th in Kolbe admitted that "assault weapons" were in common use for lawful purposes and protected by the Second Amendment under Heller, right?

 

The Department of Justice disagrees with you, in that it would be necessary to register all firearms to have an effective "universal" background check system. See "Summary of Select Firearm Violence Prevention Strategies" 2010.

Of course, 10 minutes with a file or Dremel tool makes any previously registered firearm untraceable, and the authorities cannot arrest a felon for possessing a gun merely because it is not registered.

 

I'm afraid that you're inaccurately generalizing about what 2nd Amendment supporters want & don't want. I don't recall any 2A advocate supporting gun ownership by violent felons or the mentally unfit.

As far as underage individuals owning firearms, I don't see the problem of a mature & responsible young person learning gun safety from a responsible adult as I was teaching others how to shoot, safely when I was 12.

Meanwhile, you're likely to do more than "sneer" as various gun bans & gun control schemes get struck down by Trump appointed Justices in the coming months.

 

Short answer, you’re bloviating. Ok, tell us what percent of gun crimes were committed with full automatic weapons ?

 

Percentages? None at all. Single, isolated events, committed with firearms stolen from government facilities, were all that occurred. Why? Because handguns are far more popular with the criminal element because they are easily concealed.