How Not to Impeach a President

It's not going to be a pretty sight this November for the Democrats.

Trump will be re-elected and the Democrats will lose seats.

This is one of the better parts of this article...

https://spectator.org/how-not-to-impeach-a-president/

 

DJT, the Republican Congressional members / GOP - in general - would (or should) welcome another frenetic subversion by the Dems, lol... I could think of no greater impetus for driving 'independent / undecided' voters to the polls in Nov.

edit / P.S. ... They 'shouldn't welcome a subversion', however much it would ultimately benefit them... (sorry for getting ahead of myself in 'strategery')

 

Unfortunately, the democrats believe that their base aligns with radical progressives. Democrats have abandoned the moderates of their party and they are going to pay for it.

 

The entire article worth a read!

 

This is giving me an idea...... I wonder if I can concoct a Super Bowl "peach mint" cocktail for tomorrow using Peach Schnapps and Peppermint Schnapps......

 

"Trump’s already enthusiastic political base".

Of course, "Trump's Base" is probably less than 40% of the country.

Anyway, this is just a Blatantly-Biased RW Opinion Piece.

American Spectator?




A Conservative "Dems Bad" site leaning toward Extreme RW Bias?

Once again, this is a RW Opinion Piece, and I completely disagree with the hideously flawed premise of the editorial.

 

When the ENTIRE impeachment sham wasn't based on second/third hand into, it was then based on opinions, opinions which the left morphed into facts which they wrote thousands of anti Trump news stories on as well as giving the left wing media even more thousands of hours of news coverage which they said were the facts. What changed?

 

Don’t forget feelings. Much of the House investigation dealt with feelings; the famous phone call made some people feel uncomfortable.

 

If you want to impeach a president next time charge him with something that is actually impeachable that he did AND you have actual evidence he did it. Quite simple.

Don’t make up a bunch of crap then charge him with vague things you could charge EVERY president of.

AND whoever is leading the charge have him or her not lie about conversations the president had or claim he knew what the president was thinking in an attempt to impeach him over thought crimes. This ain’t a Tom Cruise movie with telepaths convicting people.

 

Dream on.. Most of this same crap was said about Democrats by right-wingers before they won the House in 2018 so it's just blah blah blah. Trump will be going into the election as an impeached president and polls are showing Americans believe he should be removed from office by greater margins than in just the last 2 weeks. Trump is one of the least trusted presidents in American History and that was before he was impeached! The central feature of the Presidential election will be Trumps impeachment. That's not going away. Also investigations are still ongoing into Trumps businesses, taxes and more. Even though Bolton's book will be discredited by right-wingers independents and Democrats won't have that same frame of mind and it will be a best seller

Most Americans have never trusted Trump - The Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/04/24/...
Apr 24, 2019 · In fact, since Trump announced his candidacy in June 2015, a majority of Americans have always said that they don’t believe Trump is honest or trustworthy

Dream on.

 

Fantastic article. A small sample:

"In marked contrast to the Clinton impeachment, the House voted to impeach Trump for non-crimes of abuse of power and obstruction of Congress after a relatively brief 78 day investigation by the House Intelligence and Judiciary Committees most of which took place in camera in a secret underground bunker. For all but the last week (by which time it was too late to affect the outcome) Trump’s lawyers were excluded, not allowed to call or cross-examine witnesses, and questioning of witnesses by Republican committee members was severely restricted.

This kind of one-sided, Soviet-style, police state proceeding could not be better calculated to alarm and repel fair-minded people and may explain why Trump’s impeachment never gained traction with Republican and independent voters as the president’s approval ratings have risen throughout the proceedings. Put another way, the process stunk like a rotting fish in the hot summer sun, and the noxious odor never went away. Unsurprisingly, this blatantly unfair, kangaroo court frame-up not only offended voters, it also gave ample political air cover to any member of the House or Senator opposing impeachment.

Even worse, having a certifiable mental case like Adam Schiff preside over the House proceedings and then serve as one of the House Managers at the Senate trial was a calamitous and entirely avoidable self-inflicted wound. Ever since Trump’s 2016 election, Schiff has exhibited a messianic detachment from reality and sociopathic compulsion to prevaricate. For years, he has publicly and repeatedly insisted that he has secret, conclusive proof that Trump colluded with the Russians. Even after the exhaustive investigations by Special Counsel Robert Mueller and the Justice Department’s Office of Inspector General exposed Russian collusion as a hoax, Schiff has neither retracted his claim nor disclosed his hidden evidence."

The only result of impeachment will be the sinking of Biden's candidacy, the one who had the best chance of beating Trump. More......

"And then we come to what may be the dumbest move of all. By charging Trump for asking Ukraine’s help in investigating possible corruption involving Vice President Biden and his wastrel son, the House Democrats launched a prosecution that required the defense to lay out the extensive factual record that fully justified the president’s request. That’s why, in one of the high points of the Senate trial, former Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi spelled out in damning detail the facts surrounding the $1 million-plus dollars paid by Burisma Holdings to Hunter Biden even as his father threatened to withhold $1 billion in aid to compel Ukraine to fire the prosecutor who was investigating that company.

By the time Bondi had finished her excellent and comprehensive presentation, it was clear that there was ample probable cause for Trump or any reasonable person to believe that an investigation of the Bidens was plainly and fully warranted. So it is that the ill-conceived abuse of power article of impeachment laid the predicate for what will undoubtedly become the political kneecapping of Joe Biden’s presidential bid."

 

Trump was impeached. That will forever be next to his name in the history books.

 

As will his acquittal, and the fact the impeachment was completely partisan, it excluded GOP witnesses and Trump lawyers in the House until the very last, and charged no crime. Impeachment is merely like an allegation or indictment, with no Senate conviction Trump remains 'clothed in the mantle of innocence' as Gowdy would say. But if it makes you feel better to say that when Trump is re-elected, go ahead.

 

If the Dems impeach again without clear and undisputable evidence of a crime then they WILL suffer for it. Most people don't like impeachments to begin with but they'll tolerate one and let their voice be heard come time to vote. But if they attempt a second impeachment you can bet that they will be pounded for it far more than with just this one.

I know I know, I can hear the responses to this post already. "half of the people supported impeachment and removal" blah blah blah. 1st: It wasn't "half". It never even broke 50% in the aggregate. Maybe in some lone polls. But the aggregate never once hit 50%. That is less than half.

No President should be impeached on such broadly interpreted things like "abuse of power" or be impeached for "obstruction of Congress" with Congress not even using the Courts to enforce subpoena's.

"Abuse of power" is not only used against every single President as a campaign slogan, it is also so generalized that if the President, ANY PRESIDENT, said no to Congress even ONCE they could under such a thing then that President could be impeached. Frankly the only thing I can think of that would explain the Dems attempting this is their hatred of Trump. They opened up the door for a Repub controlled House to do the very same thing against one of their own. But then again Dems do have a history of doing things that end up biting themselves in their asses.

As for "obstruction of Congress", we are NOT a parliamentary system of government. The President has the power to tell Congress "no" in our system of government. He/she can't be removed on a "vote of no confidence". There's a reason that we have 3...T.H.R.E.E Branches of Government. The HoR should have used that 3rd Branch instead of rushing things so fast that we now of a for sure certain acquittal. And its plain to anyone that doesn't hate Trump that the HoR had a VERY one sided "inquiry". I don't blame Trump one iota for refusing to co-operate. The only time that they actually "invited" Trump to the inquiry was after all the questioning was done and it got sent to Nadler finally...in which he talked to a couple of dubious constitutional scholars and one that warned them that they should be using the courts instead of rushing things along. And then, what was it? 3 days later the articles of impeachment were written up (yeah right, I have a feeling that they were written up days if not weeks before) and voted on. His legal counsel was not allowed to question the "witnesses" or make arguments for/against during those testimonies. It truly was a "shampeachment".

 

And right next to that it will explain that it was a partisan impeachment based on hate of Trump.

 

No. It won't. There will just be *Impeached. For the rest of recorded history.

 

Not a matter of better or not. It's simply a historical FACT. Trump was impeached.

 

Yeah, actually it will. Trying to revise history already?

 

Look at dick Clinton. Does it looks like it bothers him?

 

Congratulations!

 

Ah but Trump WILL be reelected. It's a historical fact!

 

So what? Pulling the economy out of the Obama stagnant malaise will be there too.

 

Yes, very historic indeed, the first ever completely partisan "peachmint" with not one single crime. It reflects badly on someone, all right, just not who democrats imagine it to.

 

In what way?

 

Yet he won the election. So the poll in 2015 was meaningless .

It is best not to trust polls.