How Should The Democratic Party Win Back Less Educated Whites?

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  1. BahamaBob

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    See how neatly the "educated" liberal fits everyone into a category. Then finds an unflattering title for those who are different than he. The educated libs are not intelligent enough to determine that people don't like to be categorized and called names. Democrats offer nothing but division and hate. They have also forgot that the voters want a platform other than "we hate everything Trump" and "America was never great".

    The real problem is the "educated" liberal elites are too educated to listen to the wants and needs of the lowly working man. After all they are much smarter and those "deplorables" who are only interested in "guns and religion" anyway. One might also think that a candidate when making campaign stops would not go to a state she has no chance of losing (California) dozens of times and a state that is a toss up (Wisconsin) zero times.

    Telling people that you are going to eliminate the industry they work in to make political points with your "educated elites" don't fly well either.

    But really the Socialist party need to keep doing what they are doing. In the last year and a half, Trump's supporters remain committed and he has increased his pull with Black voters by about 30 points and had a large jump with Hispanic voters too.
     
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  2. Polydectes

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    I would offer a few suggestions.
    First: the Democratic party needs to get to the root of their contempt for white people.

    Second: they need to get to the root of their contempt for people in Middle America who do not live in the four major cities in the US.

    Third: assuming they have understood their contempt for white people and people who live in the Midwest which they refer to his flyover country or deplorables. They need to campaign to them on the basis of their lives.

    If they do this instead of ranting and raving about identities and white privilege and all this other baloney they'll come storming back.
     
  3. Natty Bumpo

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    If you need to pretend that the Democratic Party has contempt for White people, how do you explain that more White people are Democrats than are Black people, or Hispanic people, or Asian people?

    Does the Republican Party, in which 9 of 10 people are White, have contempt for Black people? For Hispanic people? For Asian people?

    We are a diverse nation, and a party that aspires to represent Americans attracts our diverse people.

    There is a marked urban/rural divide, but that does not indicate that the GOP has contempt for Americans who live in major cities or vice versa?

    When did the Democratic Party ever refer to "flyover country"?

    I do consider the neo-nazis and other white supremacists that hail Trump as their "Glorious Leader!" - as well as other racists, sexists, homophobes, xenophobes, and Islamaphobes - deplorable, but that description does not include folks Clinton cited:

    ... the other basket — and I know this because I see friends from all over America here — I see friends from Florida and Georgia and South Carolina and Texas — as well as, you know, New York and California — but that other basket of people are people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they’re just desperate for change. It doesn’t really even matter where it comes from. They don’t buy everything he says, but he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won’t wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroine, feel like they’re in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well.

    It sounds as if you are doing a good deal of ranting and raving.

    Does the 90% White Republican Party want to win over younger Americans? Female Americans? Black Americans? Hispanic Americans? Asian Americans? If so, how might it do that?
     
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    do more white people live in the country

    So you don't really want to know what the Democrat Party can do differently.
     
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    Y'all need to come up with some really bad names to call them.
     
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    How Should The Democratic Party Win Back Less Educated Whites?

    They can't as long as the economy's moving.
     
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    Just look at the number of cases for your answer 61% of 3077 vs 62% of 1568. :roflol:
     
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    Commit suicide oh wait they're already doing that.
     
  9. Natty Bumpo

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    Again, if the Democratic Party has contempt for White people as you claim, why do White people constitute the largest racial group in the Democratic Party?

    What does the Republican Party being 90% White in our increasingly diverse nation say regarding whom it has your "contemp" for?

    Pretending that the Democratic Party has contempt for White people, its largest constituency, is a hyper-partisan meme that does not prescribe how it can win back the allegiance of less-educated, older White males.

    I had previously suggested that, "With the demise of labor unions and technological innovation eliminating jobs that paid well, their Party largely ignored their plight when they were most in need. Who can blame them? It is essential that the Party energetically represent them once again, as an integral part of the diversity that comprises America and the Party."
     
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    It does as well as middle America.

    But don't listen 4 more years.
     
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    You appear to be a hyper-partisan zealot who clearly cannot confront the empirical reality that White Americans constitute the largest racial demographic in the Democratic Party whose diversity is far more representative of the nation than is the 90% monochromatic GOP.

    While I stress the responsibility of the Democratic Party to win back the less-educated, older White males it lost through neglect, it is far, far more essential that the Republican Party expand its appeal beyond its parochial profile as an existential imperative in an increasingly diverse nation.
     
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    You appear to not want criticism from the opposing view point. If you can't take it without being reduced to calling names (no finger painting for you today) maybe you shouldn't ask for it.
     
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    You fancy that yours is "the opposing view", yet cannot honestly respond to a single, straightforward inquiry regarding your hyper-partisan thesis: If, as you aver, the Democratic Party "has contempt for" White Americans, why do White Americans constitute the largest racial profile of the Democratic Party?
     
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    I'm not in denial abit the democrat party.

    Its a good thing you are. 4 more years.
     
  15. Natty Bumpo

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    I'll accept that you are incapable of explaining your fake claim that the Democratic Party has "contempt" for White Americans when the largest racial category of Democrats is "White."

    Run along now. It was obvious that you would not be able to deal with the reality.
     
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    I'll accept that you are incapable of seeing or perceiving the world at all, or that perhaps you are in denial of it.

    Thanks for the 4 more years btw.
     
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    Sorry- worked all weekend

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/more-good-news-for-clinton.448292/page-2

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/its-a-good-year-for-democrats.469288/

    (Thread title, It's a good year for Democrats lol)

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/democrats-must-win-back-blue-collar-white-voters.467707/

    Here's you claiming once again Trump has no chance against Clinton

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/how-would-trump-win.473193/

    One of my personal favorites is you begging the forum to list one wrong doing of Hillary

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/list-hillary-clintons-crimes.470420/

    Here's you prematurely starting a thread about "President Clinton's" healthcare policies

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/president-clintons-health-care-priorities.481519/

    Here's you praying that Johnson throws his support to Clinton, in the best interest of the nation

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...-johnson-throw-his-support-to-clinton.481690/

    I mean a simple search of all your threads created prove the point.

    Clinton campaigner, you were. Then you just backed off quietly like most left wingers did when she lost.
     
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    Thank yo for confirming that I had never campaigned for Clinton, never sang her praises.

    As I had noted and you have provided ample evidence to support, I had, like most folks, expected her to win and deemed her superior to the reality tv performer.
    She would not have been my choice for the nomination, but was the only alternative to Trump, and one that most American voters preferred, myself included.
     
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    Now you're just saying "Nuh UH!". She was your choice for nomination and you made it clear that she should be President. All your threads campaigning for her, there's more too! I just got tired of going through every one and stopped there.

    You were one of Hillary's biggest supporters on this thread. Once she lost, you backed off like most of the others under you, did.
     
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    You have not provided any instances of my "campaigning", of course. I did not ever extol Clinton as a candidate, sing her praises, or recommend that anyone vote for her.

    Rather, like most Americans, I expected her to win, and voted for her as preferable to her opposition.

    If you are aware of my ever advising anyone to vote for her or relating any of her qualities to support their doing so, what do you have to directly quote?
     
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    Answering the original question posted in the OP.... "stop being effete elitist DBs?" How about this...
     
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    Those links, quotes of you, all show your full support for her. Your constant threads and posts claiming she was the winning candidate PROVE you campaigned for her.

    You actually have a thread with STATISTICS! LOL
     
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    You didn't expect a serious, introspective answer did you?

    From his perspective, the Democratic Party is fine, it's the voters who are the problem.
     
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    from that poster no.

    well so many people refuse to understand the problem.

    I'm fine with it it pretty much equates to four more years.
     
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    You want the deplorable vote?
     

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