How the situation with Iran may reflect on Georgia

As many Republican senators questioning the nuclear deal with Iran seem to be on a war footing, let me explain in greater detail what war with Iran would entail. Specifically, once hostilities are commenced by the US and company, Iran could retaliate as follows:

I- Persian Gulf/Sea of Oman Theater In this theater, the target list for Iran would include US warships and naval forces, American bases, allied oil facilities, as well as commercial shipping and naval ports. To go after these targets, Iran would rely on the following:

(A) Underwater Assets

(1) Mines: Iran would mine the waters of the Persian Gulf, using one of the largest stockpiles of mines which it possess to make navigation in the area dangerous to both commercial as well as military shipping. See Article: US Navy unable to counter Iranian sea mine threat!

(2) Submarines: Iran's submarines force is specifically geared towards fighting in shallow water near its coast. In addition to the 3 Kilo subs Iran acquired from Russia in the 1990s, Iran has developed a significant submarine force consisting of numerous midget, small, and medium sized submarines. These smaller submarines aren't meant to operate in blue waters, but have great advantages operating near Iran's shores. They can lay in wait without detection and can be quite deadly.



(3) Iranian torpedoes: Iran has a variety of torpedoes, including the Hoot which is "reverse engineered from the Russian VA-111 Shkval supercavitation torpedo which travels at the same speed" ((approximately 360 km/h (220 mph), several times faster than a conventional torpedo)).


(B) Surface Assets

(1) Small Attack Boats: Against the US, the most potent surface vessels Iran has aren't its frigates and larger naval warships. Iran's most potent vessels are its large fleet of small attack ships equipped with missiles, which can overwhelm US defenses and sink the American navy in the area using what are referred to as "surge tactics". While the US navy has been working on developing an answer to this threat, none of its answers seem good enough since Iran is also working on its own answers to the answers the US is finding to previous issues.




(2) Anti-ship missiles: Iran has one of the largest inventories of anti-ship missiles, deployed in numerous islands and bases in the Persian Gulf area. Even the least sophisticated of these missiles, such as the one that struck the Israeli frigate INS Hanit in 2006 in the war against Hezbollah, can be deadly. Some of these missiles are genuinely state of the art and the US has no answer to them as they can evade the kind of defenses the US employs against anti-ship missiles.

(3) Frigates, corvettes and missile craft: On their own, these larger vessels are more a liability than an asset for Iran. But working in tandem as part of the surge tactics I mentioned, they add significant punch to the ability of Iran to wipe out the US navy in the area. Of course, if the initial wave of US attacks focus on taking these ships, many of them would be lost. But given the large number of Iranian targets to cover, it seems highly unlikely that these ships will be among the first targets for the US to attack.

(C) Aerial assets

(1) Iranian UAVs. While most of Iran's UAV fleet is designed for reconnaissance missions, there are several types of Iranian UAVs that are developed to carry missiles and act as suicide drones. These simply augment and add another dimension to Iran's surge tactics designed to overwhelm enemy defenses in the early hours of battle.

(2) Iranian Air force. Iran's air force will have utility in the early hours of battle, working in tandem with the rest of the forces, to add punch to Iran's surge tactics. While the US will undoubtedly be able to claim air superiority and take out the Iranian air force, in the early hours of the conflict, these aircraft will be joining the rest of the forces to inflict their damage in the Persian Gulf theater of battle.

II. Regional Theater of Operations: American forces in the region, whether in Afghanistan, in Iraq, or elsewhere, would be part of the target list for Iran. Given Iran's assets in the region, many of those forces will be quickly taken out or captured as well. Additionally, the main culprits for bringing such war, including Israel, will find themselves attacked as well. Indeed, besides Iran's own forces, its allies will be called into action and the result will be a war which would engulf areas beyond just Iran. The main military assets Iran possess for this part of its tactics are its ballistic missiles of various range, its cruise missiles, allied forces (Hezbollah, pro Iran Shia militia in Iraq, pro Iran forces in Afghanistan), as well as elements of its conventional forces.

III. Cyber warfare: Iran is generally considered one of the top countries in the world in terms of cyber warfare capabilities. Those capabilities will be unleashed to disrupt US and allied military, commercial and economic activities.

I should mention, incidentally, that depending on the nature of the war, Iran is fully capable of taking the fighting even to enemy shores. Those kind of attacks would be mostly psychological in nature, but having long range cruise missiles that can be fired from different platforms also means that Iran has the ability to fire off a missile even at the US itself using a forward deployed platform.

 

I should mention that the nuclear deal weakens Iran's deterrent options by making it much more difficult for Iran to quickly assemble some nukes in case of threats against it. However, as I note above, that doesn't mean all of Iran's capabilities to deter an enemy attack have been foreclosed by the nuclear deal. I mention this because reading General Dempsey comments to the US Senate regarding the nuclear deal with Iran, it seems he is comparing what the US got to if Santa Claus was complying with whatever was on the US wish list! In particular, I am referring to these comments by General Dempsey:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/30/w...flict-with-iran-top-us-general-says.html?_r=0
Top General Gives ‘Pragmatic’ View of Iran Nuclear Deal

What Dempsey is referring to is basically getting Iran to unilaterally disarm and pave the way for the US/Israel to do as they please!

 

OK.....THIS ONE IS A LAUGHER!!! LOL!!!

You posted and I quote...." Iran is generally considered one of the top countries in the world in terms of cyber warfare capabilities. Those capabilities will be unleashed to disrupt US and allied military, commercial and economic activities."...end quote Iranian Student.....oh...excuse me....HALL MONITOR!! LOL!!!

I actually was taking a sip of beer when I read this and I let out a laugh which caused beer to shoot out of ny nose because I was laughing so hard!! LOL!!!!!

WHAT WORLD ARE YOU LIVING IN????

Because it certainly is not this one nor is it any REAL WORLD I know about!!!

Before the possibility of a conflict or war occuring between the United States and...........write in name of country.....there is always the inevitable debate about how the United States Military would handle certain Military Capabilities of any said given Nation.

Rest assured that whatever Iran might attempt to throw at U.S. Military Forces will either be destroyed in battle or most likely destroyed way before Iran ever get's to use such weapons.

You brought up using Speed Boats against a U.S. Naval Nuclear Carrier Battle Group which we have 11 of and each Carrier Battle group consists of One Nuclear Powered Nimitz Class Aircraft Carrier as these carriers can accommodate a maximum of 130 F/A-18 Hornets or 85–90 aircraft of different types as well a Nimitz Carrier carries more Thermonuclear Weapons than the entire Nation of China.....2 Ticonderoga Class Aegis Cruisers which are equipped with the SM-3 ABM/ASAT which is currently the most capable Anti-Missile....Anti-Aircraft... Anti-Satellite....Missile in use today.

An SM-3 in 2007 was launched from the USS. Lake Erie which is a Ticonderoga Class Aegis Cruiser....as a failing Satellite with a full Hydrazine Gas Booster Tank was in a failing orbit. The worse case scenario was the Hydrazine Booster Tank that is just one part of this failing satellite would re-enter Earth's atmosphere intact and as Hydrazine Gas is Deadly Toxic....the U.S. Military decided to use the USS. Lake Erie Cruiser and launch an SM-3at this failing satellite traveling at ORBITAL DISTANCE and at a velocity of between 16,500 and 18,000 miles per hour.

The SM-3 scored A DIRECT HIT UPON THE HYDRAZINE TANK WHICH WAS JUST ONE PART OF THE SATELLITE AS TO STRIKE THE CENTER OF THE SATELLITE AND NOT JUST THE HYDRAZINE TANK COULD HAVE CAUSED PARTS OF THE SATELLITE TO FLY OUTWARDS AWAY FROM THE EARTH POSSIBLY INTERFERING WITH OR COLLIDING WITH ANOTHER SATELLITE IN ORBIT!!!

Thus the SM-3's EXPLOSIVE WARHEAD WAS REMOVED and the direct strike at high velocity by the SM-3 upon the Hydravine Tank and the HYDRAZINE TANK ONLY....caused the Hydrazine Tank to detonate.

This entire operation is documented and was filmed by a Digital Video Telescope.

OPERATION BURNT FROST.....LINK TO YOUTUBE VIDEO.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDqNjnUNUl8

AboveAlpha....continued...

 

http://www.businessinsider.com/iran-is-officially-a-real-player-in-the-cyber-war-2014-12
Iran Is Officially A Real Player In The Global Cyber War

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/23/u...yberwarfare-between-the-us-and-iran.html?_r=0
Document Reveals Growth of Cyberwarfare Between the U.S. and Iran

http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blog...wing-cyber-capabilities-in-a-post-stuxnet-era
Iran’s Growing Cyber Capabilities in a Post-Stuxnet Era

 

Continued.....as well within a Nimitz Class Carrier Battle group with a single Nuclear Powered Nimitz Class Carrier....two Ticonderoga Class Aegis Cruisers which equipped with SM-3 ABM/ASAT's as well as being a multi-mission surface combatant that is also equipped with Tomahawks Cruise Missiles both Conventional Warheads and Nuclear for long-range strike capability......there is also....two Arleigh Burke-class Destroyers with guided missile as these are multi-mission surface combatants, used primarily for anti-air warfare (AAW)....as well at least 2 to 4 Frigates and Supply-class replenishment ships....a combined ammunition, oiler, and supply ship provides logistic support enabling the Navy's forward presence; on station, ready to respond.....Mine Sweeper Ships....and of course any U.S. Navy Nuclear Powered Carrier Battle Group would not be complete without.....

A NUMBER OF ATTACK SUBMARINES....such as Los Angeles ttack Subs.....Virginia Attack Subs.....and the United States Navy posses the SEAWOLF SUBMARINES which are the most advanced and capable Attack Submarines in the WORLD.

They are capable of guarding a U.S. Navy Carrier group and all are easily capable of completely sinking the entire Iranian Navies Large Surface Ships and all submarines.

A SINGLE SEAWOLF is designed to be so quiet, fast and stealthy it can target MULTIPLE SURFACE SHIPS AND UNDERWATER SUBMARINES AND DESTROY THEM ALL AT THE SAME TIME!!

AboveAlpha...continued....

 

And exactly how many times in the past 30 years has somebody threatened to nuke Iran? How many times in the past 25 years have they been attacked?

Exactly who is threatening to attack or nuke them now?

 

YOU....Iranian Student....have this FANTASY SCENARIO in where large numbers of Tiny buy Fast Iranian Speed Boats with Torpedo's would be zipping in and around U.S. Naval Carrier Battle Groups.

THIS THINKING IS BEYOND IGNORANT!!!

The U.S. Air Force or F-18 Superhornets or B-2's or B-1B's or B-52's or F-22's or F-35's or F-16's or F-15E's or Submarine Launched Cruise Missiles or Ticonderoga Class Aegis Cruisers or Arleigh Burke-class Destroyers with guided missiles or Stealth Fighter/Attack Drones or Non-Nuclear Tactical EMP's dropped by F-22's or F-35's or U.S. NAVY SEAL TEAMS or OTHER U.S. SPECIAL FORCES...ETC...ETC...ETC....WOULD MAKE CERTAIN ALL OF THOSE IRANIAN NAVY SPEED BOATS WERE DESTROYED WAY BEFORE THEY COULD EVER BE USED!!!

Even if they ALL were out to sea....U.S. Navy Aircraft and U.S. Air Force Aircraft would simply sink them way before they got within Hundreds of Miles of a U.S. Carrier Battle Group.

In fact I hope we do not retire the A-10 as I am certain those A-10 Pilots would be having a lot of fun as they used their AN/GAU-8a 30mm Avenger seven-barrel gatling gun which fires DEPLEATED URANIUM ROUNDS which can punch holes in any Iranian Tank never mind a little speed boat!! LOL!!!

YOU ARE LIVING IN A WORLD OF FANTASY!!!

I just described one.....JUST ONE U.S. NAVY NUCLEAR NIMITZ CLASS CARRIER BATTLE GROUPS....of which we have or soon will have 11 with the addition of the CVN-78 Gerald R. Ford Stealth Carrier which will be the first U.S. Carrier to be equipped with the new FEL....FREE ELECTRON LASER SYSTEM....which will be supplied power generated from the carriers two A1B Nuclear Reactors and DISCOVER MAGAZINE ran an article stating that a FREE ELECTRON LASER using a 1 cm in diameter beam CAN VAPORIZE A HOLE THROUGH 1000 FEET OF SOLID STEEL!!!

Not 10 feet or 100 feet.....BUT 1000 FEET OF SOLID STEEL when properly supplied power!!

THIS ONE CARRIER BATTLE GROUP IS PERFECTLY CAPABLE OF OBLITERATING EVERY SQUARE INCH OF THE ENTIRE AREA OF THE NATION OF IRAN!!!!

This ONE CARRIER BATTLE GROUP by itself is completely capable of winning a WAR AGAINST IRAN!!

JUST ONE!!!

We have 10 or 11 now.

Then add to this the full power of the U.S. AIR FORCE!!!

Then add to that the U.S. Marines.

Then add to that the U.S. Army.

Then add to this U.S. CYBER COMMAND.

Then add to that U.S. SPACE COMMAND.

Then add to this U.S. SOCOM.

Then add to that U.S. SPECIAL WEAPONS SYSTEMS DIVISION.

I could go on all day.

You keep posting pictures of Iranian Weapons Systems and you post about Iranian Missiles hitting Israel and you talk about how in some FANTASY WORLD SCENARIO....that Iran is somehow capable of Militarily standing it's ground against an all out U.S. Military Attack BUT WHAT YOU NEVER TALK ABOUT IS HOW THIS CAN BE AVOIDED!!!

AboveAlpha....continued....

 

YOU....Iranian Student....have NEVER DISCUSSED anything about how such a horrific war with an Iranian Body Count that would number in the 100's of Thousands could be avoided.

Why is that?

Why is it you are not talking about how Iran will HONOR it's agreement with the United States specific to Iran's signing of the NPT and how Iran must follow though upon it's obligations?

Why are you not discussing that?

AboveAlpha

 

This guy never talks about what can be done to AVOID a WAR!!!

All he does is post pictures of Iranian Ships and Boats and Missiles which has about the same guidance capability as a guy riding a Mechanical Bull at a bar after he has had 12 beers and 10 shots and the guy is BLINDFOLDED as he attempts to throw a dart at a 1 inch in diameter center circle of a dart board!!

You are RIGHT Mushroom....most of Iran's Missiles are nothing more than SCUD'S!!!

What really bothers me is this Guy is not a typical Iranian Student as I have been to Iran TWICE and the people there are very friendly and the very LAST THING they want is another WAR!!!

As I have posted over 70% of THE ENTIRE IRANIAN POPULATION is under the age of 30 years old.

THINK ABOUT THAT!!!!

Think about how many Iranian People DIED during the war against Iraq!

Now it is true the United States supplied Satellite Imaging Data to Iraq because at the time....UNLIKE THE CURRENT EXISTING REALITY IN IRAN.....back then there were a large number of FANATICAL IRANIAN'S who were so eager to throw their lives away attacking Iraqi Mechanized Divisions set up to allow interlocking fields of fire as Iranian Religious Leaders issued Fatwa's that stated that every able bodied boy, teen or man must pick up any weapon they could find and in some cases those weapons were axes and pitchforks and hammers....as the Iranian Religious Leaders Fatwa's declared that these children and men by the Religious Leaderhip's Interpretation of the will of Allah.....must charge the enemy in mass waves as according to the Iranian Religious Leaders Fatwa's....Allah would BE ON THEIR SIDE and should they die they would we brought into Paradise as martyrdom.

So huge numbers of Iranain's charge directly into Iraqi Interlocking Fields of Fire and are cut down by the thousands upon thousands as their Religious Leadership had no problem at all invoking what ammounted to MASS SUICIDE RUNS UPON MECHNIZED FORCES!!!

But you would NEVER SEE ONE OF THESE COWARD SOB IRANIAN RELIGIOUS LEADERS RUNNING AHEAD OF THE IRANIAN PEOPLE LEADING THE CHARGE!!!

NEVER!!!

To be a LEADER means that YOU LEAD!!

As a LEADER....THE LIVES OF THOSE YOU LEAD IS ALWAYS MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOUR OWN LIFE!!

As a LEADER....YOU SET THE EXAMPLE!!! YOU MUST NEVER VIOLATE THE TRUST OF YOUR PEOPLE....AND ABOVE ALL.....YOU NEVER USE TRICKERY OR HUXTERY OR RELIGIOUS IDEOLOGY TO FORCE THOSE YOU LEAD TO SACRIFICE THEIR LIVES WITH NO MILITARY OBJECTIVE OTHER THAN A DEMONSTRATION OF YOUR OWN POWER OVER THEM!!

The Iranian Ayatollah's and Mullah's are NOT LEADERS.....THEY ARE RELIGIOUS CON MEN!!!

WHILE SANCTIONS FOR YEARS EFFECTED AVERAGE IRANIAN'S TO A GREAT DEGREE....THE IRANIAN RELIGIOUS LEADERSHIP LIVED IN LUXURY!!!

And when Oil Production and Oil Exports increase I don't think the Iranian People will see any of those Profits.

AboveAlpha

 

I am going to ignore the spam and reiterate a point I have tried to make. As an offensive force, Iran's military is much weaker than Saddam's military used to be before Desert Storm. I don't like to admit it, but that is true. As a defensive force designed to deter, retaliate against, defend and repel against an American attack, Iran's military is simply incomparable to not just Iraq's military under Saddam, but to any force the US has gone to war against.

Quoted from What is it about Iran that scares the US?

Explaining how many of the ordinary advantages enjoyed by the US is lost in a confrontation against Iran, the author notes:

As for the US being able to preempt and destroy Iran's capabilities:

Incidentally, an article that was posted today (31 July 2015) entitled Without a Bomb, What is Iran's Military Capable of Doing? discusses Iran's military capabilities from the prism of analysts like Anthony Cordesman who are close to the US military. I would be remiss, however, if I didn't mention that Anthony Cordesman is one of those analysts who predicted that Iran would soon not be able to fly a "single F-14" -- that being a prediction he offered more than 25 years ago, yet Iran is still flying those birds!

 

Talking about the F-14 fighters, let me refer to this article in The Aviationist with photos of an F-14 being overhauled in Iran.

http://theaviationist.com/2015/03/01/iriaf-f-14s-overhauled/
Photos of World’s last active service F-14 Tomcat jets overhauled in Iran
Mar 01 2015

 

You have GOT to be kidding!!??

You posted and I quote....Iran....."As a defensive force designed to deter, retaliate against, defend and repel against an American attack, Iran's military is simply incomparable to not just Iraq's military under Saddam, but to any force the US has gone to war against."

Incomparable.

Greneda's Cuban Controlled Military was INCOMPARABLE to any Military Force the U.S. Military has gone against...even if we secured the nation of Greneda in 24 hours.

Of COURSE Iran's Military is INCOMPARABLE to any Military the U.S. has fought before because most likely the U.S. won't have to fight the vast majority of the Iranian Military.

If I am some Iranian Soldier or Sailor or Airman....and one of my Shia Ultra-Religious Controlled Iranian Old Guard Leadershi tells me I am going to engage the United States in a Military battle......I AM DESERTING!!!

Even the Iranian Military Leadership knows that to attempt any attacks upon Invading U.S. Forces that YOU are one of the LUCKY ONE'S because anyone who could place themselves in a position to attck U.S. Forces IS USUALLY DEAD LONG BEFORE THEY KNOW WHAT TO DO!!

AboveAlpha

 

It might useful if I quote the pertinent parts from the annual report submitted by the Pentagon to Congress regarding Iran's military capabilities. The Executive Summary is brief but it refers to the key points that I have mentioned.

http://fas.org/man/eprint/dod-iran-2014.pdf

 

Yes....I and others are all aware of Iran's Military Buildup.

What is at issue here is nothing short of the EXISTANCE OF THE NATION OF IRAN!!!

Now the United States will KNOW with 100% CERTAINTY withing 18 to 24 months whether or not Iran intends to HONOR THE AGREEMENT.

LET'S MAKE SOMETHING CLEAR!!!

If Iran does NOT HONOR THE AGREEMENT....THE UNITED STATES MILITARY WILL INVADE IRAN!!!

There are no other options as the U.S. will Invade Iran if not only to PROTECT IRAN FROM ISRAEL BOMBING IRANIAN NUCLEAR FACILITIES....as to do that would release Radioactive Dust into the air and poison the entire REGION!!

The United States WILL NOT ALLOW THIS!!

As well THE U.S. WILL NOT ALLOW IRAN TO BREAK THE NPT!!!

So if I were you I would be doing everything I could to inform those who will listen that the additional time given to Iran which will allow Iran to develop via it's 17,000 Centrifuges....enough Weapons Grade Uranium to assemble between 7 to 12 Fission Bombs with a nominal explosive yield of between 5 to 7 Kilotons...Hiroshima was 12 Kilotons......THAT 12 OLD STYLE U.S. MILITARY GUN BARREL DESIGN FISSION BOMBS ARE NOT GOING TO STOP A U.S. INVASION OF IRAN!!!

This is what the Ahatollah's and Mullah's believe....as they actually think if they can get more time and thus develop enough Weapons Grade Uranium....allowing them to assemble between 7 to 12 Fission Bombs as the Gun Barrel Fission Bomb is 70 YEAR OLD TECHNOLOGY as it is the WEAPONS GRADE URANIUM that is hard to get or make....the rest is childs play!!!.....the Iranian Religious Leaders actually think if Iran possesses these Nuclear Bombs that this will prevent a U.S. Invasion.

WRONG!!!

If anything it just ENSURES A U.S. INVASION!!!!

If YOU live in Iran or have relatives in Iran and I have been to Iran twice and the people of Iran WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY WAR WITH THE UNITED STATES!!! They want peaceful and good relations as it is the Old Religious Guard, Qud's Force, Iranian Religious Secet Police and the Republican Guard FANATICS who are making this most horrible of mistakes!!!

If YOU live there then you should do whatever you can to enlighten these Religious Zealots that think having Nukes will stop a U.S. Invasion....it will not.

I really HOPE that Iran HONORS THE AGREEMENT but it seem's they have no intention on doing so.

And THIS is what I worry about......The U.S. Military if it has to Invade Iran want's to invade in a manner where the least possible amount of LOSS OF LIFE will occur.

This is why we have been talking to your Military Leaders as they do not want to be involved in any war against the U.S. as for them this would be SUICIDE!!

Thus the Iranian Navy, Air Force and Regular Army most likely will stand down and if they don't....then unfortunately the United States Military will have to destroy these service branches....and I hope to GOD this does not have to happen.

The Republican Guard....well....we will air drop MILLIONS OF LEAFLET'S telling them in Farsi to GO HOME OR DIE!

That will be the one and only chance they get because the United States will Chopper Drop 10's of Thousand's of Rangers, Special Forces, Special Teams and CIA Team's to seize all Iranian Nuclear Sites....and as we must protect our Forces....and movement by any Division toward our Forces will be an Iranian Division that will soon no longer exist.

Iran has absolutely NO POSSIBLE MILITARY CAPABILITY TO COUNTER AN ALL OUR U.S. MILITARY ATTACK!!

So if I were YOU....I would talk to as many Iranian's as I could who are driving our Nation's toward war and get them to HONOR THEIR OWN AGREEMENT!!!

THAT'S ALL IT TAKES TO AVOID WAR...IRAN SIMPLY HONORING IT'S OWN AGREEMENTS!!!

If it does not....GOD HELP IRAN!!!

You have NO IDEA the amount of MILITARY FORCE that the United States can bring to bear CONVENTIONALLY never mind using High Tech. Weapons Systems we now have operational as well as although we would never USE NUCLEAR WEAPONS unless another Nation used them upon our allies or our Military Forces....if a Nuclear Armed Iran tried something of this nature.....well Uranium 238 has a HALF LIFE OF 4.5 BILLION YEARS!!

AboveAlpha

 

Don't waste your time on him. He doesn't build his opinion on facts but rather some fiction books, movies and games for american fanboys.
Don't expect any prooflinks from his side, he would rather tell you a story about how HE and HIS TEAM have seen an ABSOLUTE SUPER-DUPER SUPERIOR /insert random random imaginary or real weapon system/, which will ensure AMERICAN DOMINANCE ON THE PLANET EARTH AND ANY OTHER ALIEN INVADER FROM OUTER SPACE, who will be defeated IN MERE MINUTES.
He is one boring american fanboy.

 

Really KGB?

Your calling me a FANBOY???

Shall I go though your posting History and repost the large number of Russia and Putin GOOD....U.S. BAD....posts you have made??? LOL!!

If there is something you disagree with what I have posted then by all means present your contrary post and debate.

But if after all I have posted the best you have is....AND I QUOTE..."Don't waste your time on him. He doesn't build his opinion on facts but rather some fiction books, movies and games for american fanboys."....end quote KGB....well all that shows me and every other member here is that you have absolutely no evidence to post that is contrary to what I posted and you are just being a PAIN!! LOL!!

Go ahead!!

Show me one thing I posted above that you can definitively prove me wrong???

If you can't....then wait to post when you can!!!

AboveAlpha

 

When was this written ? There's no link and no date??

 

Are you talking about what I wrote or when the Topic first came on the forum?

AboveAlpha

 

To be honest, I have largely been ignoring this thread for a while now.

Hijacked by yet another fanboi, ignoring anything he does not like and throwing unsourced junk around, without a care that the majority of us could not care less.

 

You mean...."COULD CARE LESS".

As your post and I quote...."the majority of us could not care less."...end quote Mushroom means that the majority would care.

Example....."I could care less."....means that what I am reading is something I not only do not care about but in fact I could even CARE LESS that even not caring.

Example...."I could not care less about."....means there is a degree of caring you have that exists and that by your own statement.....COULD NOT CARE LESS ABOUT....than what the degree of caring you currently have.

Word Salad.

AboveAlpha

 

"I could care less" is the word salad, for sure. Why would someone declare that they care something more than the minimum? If someone suggests the could care less, maybe they should be asked what would be necessary for them to care less.

"Couldn't care less" clearly means that there is no possibility of caring any less.

PersonA: "I could care less about you."
PersonB: "Really? How about if I let you know that you're an idiot?"
PersonA: "OK, now I could NOT care less about you."

 

My God, this is from November 2011.......................

 

Correct....but logically if a person could not care any less....it implies an actual degree of caring that exists at a point from which they could not care less than.

Saying I could care less....mean's a person is stating it is definitely possible to care even LESS than a specific point or degree of caring!

LOL!!!

This was just a JOKE!

But it is interesting to look at I suppose but then perhaps I could care less!!??

AboveAlpha

 

Yeah....there was a member who called himself IRANIAN STUDENT I believe and now there is a member calling themselves Iranian Monitor....which I find funny as HELL considering the choice and use of the word MONITOR as in this case I believe this Iranian's ability to MONITOR should be confined to a HALL!! LOL!!!

PASS PLEASE??

AboveAlpha

 

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