How to Stop Illegal Immigration Without a Wall

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  1. Thought Criminal

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    Why should a smoker for 20 years decide to quit?

    It has suddenly become an issue because someone has decided to stop it.
     
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    A country with extreme inequalities exaggerating the threat of immigration? Hmm, I couldn't possibly comment...
     
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    Physical barriers work
    The end!
    You can hate trump but you cant deny the laws of physics
     
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    Well we did finally stop those "indigenous folks" from killing and flaying each other.
     
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    Liberals literally argue that America needs illegal aliens because they work cheap

    Open border libs are the new slave masters
     
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    Republicans are the majority employers of these cheap illegals
     
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    The democrat party gets as much money from big business as repubs do
     
  8. truth and justice

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    The majority of the big businesses on the southern border are owned by Republican supporters who are the biggest employers of illegal workers
     
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    They need to dodge the taxes and regulations they pass on American workers.
     
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    Like I said. Show a democrat an illegal immigrant and they will come up with a reason they should get to stay.
     
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    If you're all for legal immigration, then why not simply create a shall-issue law for immigration like the laws for firearm concealed carry permits that many states have passed?

    Any potential immigrant who presents himself to an authorized US checkpoint shall be issued a green card within 30 days unless ICE can demonstrate a good reason that the person shouldn't get in.

    Take, for example, my wife. We've been married for 14 years. We have three kids together. I'm an American citizen who was born in the US to two American citizens. I have been working on getting my wife an IR3 visa for 18 months now. I've spent $2,500 on an attorney, $590 on the petition, and $445 for visa services so far. Why is it so damn hard for a Mormon guy to bring a Mormon girl who he's been married to for 14 years into Utah, a place that welcomes Mormons with outstretched arms?

    Let me guess — I should be separated from my wife and kids for years at a time because you don't like pressing 1 on the phone for English. Am I right?
     
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    Where did you get that idea from?

    Most illegals work for small to medium employeers
     
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    Are the southern border states mostly Republican or Democrat?
     
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    The large corporations are mostly controlled by liberals these days
     
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    So in the strongest Republican states, it is the Democrats who are generating the most employment.
     
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    "I am proud to shut down the government for border security, Chuck. Because the people of this country don’t want criminals and people that have lots of problems and drugs pouring into our country. So I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down. I’m not going to blame you for it."

    Speaking outside the White House Friday afternoon,Trump said he’s insisting on $5.6 billion for his proposed border wall because “a lot of numbers get tossed around.”

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    What was it that stopped the thousands in the caravans?

    Walls.

    Well, that and tear gas.
     
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    It's always been an issue. It has become more a priority since 2009 but we didnt have the right person in office to make is a priority in government.

    Also you should do something about it before the economy collapses. Once the economy collapses it would be impossible to get funding. Also its when the economy does well that illegal immigration is on the rise.
     
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    If the economy collapses we will have a lot more to worry about than a few illegal immigrants or building a stupid wall. And my question is why all of a sudden illegal immigration is becoming such a matter of national hysteria.
     
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    Sorry but one murder no matter how horrendous isn't a very good reason for wasting billions on a wall that if it were absolutly perfect might stop less than 50% of the immigrants in America illegally. It is just like claiming because one cop shot an innocent person all cops should be in prison.

    And I still haven't seen how or ehen the shooter got into the US illegally and how he was still running around loose after two DUIs.
     
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    You mean like building Trump casinos, working at Mar A Lago and at other Trump properties. those darned liberals
     
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    Facts are never very important over fear as for the last almost a decade time period more Mexicans have been leaving the US then entering it.
     
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    Nothing like genocide to reduce crime rates...
     
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    The fact is genocide was practiced routinely on the North and South American Continents long before Europeans got here. You just feel you have some sort of "moral high ground" by overlooking that fact. To the winner goes the spoils and you just want to cry "foul"!!!
     
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    That's easy.

    No wall + sanctuary cities/states.

    That's why his brothers and friends, also illegal aliens, who tried to help him evade capture, will be released from jail into the US instead of being deported.

    Then they'll probably kill someone else and we can start over again.
     
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