How to take on Iran

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  1. pjohns

    pjohns Well-Known Member

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    Apparently, Iran planted mines, which recently exploded, on four foreign oil tankers.

    Moreover, it seems that Iran had a proxy do a rocket attack on the US embassy in Baghdad.

    Retired General Jack Keane has said that the commercial ships of all our allies--both in Europe and Japan--should be re-flagged; they should carry the US flag, instead of that of their respective countries.

    Moreover, they should be escorted by US warships.

    And if Iran then fires upon them...well, then appropriate action should be taken.

    Comments?
     
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    Isn't it just easier to say we are the world's policeman?
     
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    I really do not think that we need to be "the world's policeman" to respond to Iran's evil deeds.
     
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    It was Japan's ship.
     
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    GraspingforPeace Well-Known Member

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    Have you all heard about our Iraq's WMDs? I hear they have mobile production facilities, Colin Powell said so!
     
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    I'm sure they got lots of new toys with the billions your lor and savior Obama gave them in the garbage Iran nuclear deal
     
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    Indeed. This a blatant false flag.... laughable really. It looks like America is about to engage Iran on the behalf of Israel/Saudi Arabia. Get ready for millions of new Muslim immigrants to the West.... because that is about all that will be accomplished. Absolute insanity.
     
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    Level ALL of their military bases and anything that could be offensively. Over and over and over again as needed.
     
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    Iran has also harassed American ships.

    Moreover, by mining Japanese and European ships, Iran poses a threat to the world's oil supply; and this, in turn, has a negative impact upon the American economy.
     
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    Please elucidate...
     
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    Yeah, like I said, the Worlds policeman.
     
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    Yeah, and they are buying yellow cake from Niger.
    I sold them my old chemistry set. Made a bundle.
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    Obama got Iran to agree to the most invasive and intrusive nuclear inspection regime in the world, an agreement that even Trump's administration conceded was being upheld by Iran.

    Trump got North Korea to agree to all of jack **** and all he had to do was salute North Korean generals, call KJU a great guy, promise to pay for the torture of an American citizen, and refuse to publicly blame the North Korean leadership for that American's torture.
     
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    No; America's policeman.

    Doing something to protect American interests is certainly not tantamount to policing the entire world (even if other countries are also, thereby, positively affected).
     
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    The administration is doing the right thing -- get most other nations to isolate Iran. Once any country see the world is turning against them they will change. The world should have done the same thing to Hitler.
     
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    The Iraqi army and air force were defeated before the first bomb was dropped in the Second Iraq War. There is a reason it took less than a month for U.S. forces to capture Baghdad.

    Yet the war dragged on for over eight years. The coalition forces lost over 5,000 dead and 30,000 wounded. It is estimated over one million Iraqis were killed. Direct cost was approximately $1.1 trillion. Indirect costs, such as care for the 30,000 wounded, are at least that.

    The IRGC has no such problem and they are very well trained and extremely dedicated. They have some of the most sophisticated warplanes on the planet along with ballistic missiles and cruise missiles that can hit our ships.

    The Iraq War would be a walk in the park compared to a war with Iran and her proxies. Adding to the size of the conflict, Israel would likely join the hostilities.

    Trump doesn't seem aware of what he started when he trashed the JCPOA.
     
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    The administration is the one being isolated. Our European allies don't believe Trump.

    The European allies that the U.S. would need to mobilize against Iran are skeptical of the Trump administration's claims of evidence of Iranian attacks. https://www.npr.org/2019/06/17/7334...llies-that-iran-is-responsible-for-tanker-att
     
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    The countries ships are flagged means very little.
     
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    The owner of the japanese ship has contradicted the us gov’t claim that it was an underwater mine. He claims the ship was hit by a projectile above the waterline.

    Plus the video that the govt has released doesnt prove anything. Men on a boat are next to the oil tanker. Cant see what they’re doing but apparantly it has “iran written all over it”.

    Gulf of tonkin
    Incubator babies
    WMD’s
    Yellow cake.

    We’ve seen this many times before. We should know better. And despite how bad the media smear trump, when it comes to war they never question what the pentagon tells them. They stop doing tmz news, and become stenographers for yhe gov’t. Happens everytime.
     
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    Want to get into another Iraq-like quagmire?

    However, Iran is nothing like Iraq. Saddam had nothing, and GWB knew it, that's why they claimed the war would be over in weeks, if not months.

    Iran, on the other hand, is on a different level. We won't get away with 4,500 casualties in a conflict with Iran. It's going to be a lot more costly. Are you ready for that?
     
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    Do you really believe that is all the US Navy has? Since they are claiming they believe Iran is responsible, you can be confident that they have a lot more than a few grainy photographs. All of their ships have sonar capability plus the patrol aircraft have sonobuoys. Most likely they have some submarines in that battle group. There is likely very little they do know about the coming and going of the Iranian boats. They are not going to tell the world how they know.
     
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    Our govt has a long history of creating incidents or completely making them up in order to rally allies and the american public to support war. Theres a reason why our govt wants to push for regime change so badly in iran and venezuela. The only 2 countries with the richest oil deposits who are not our allies. If they want to convince me they need to do better than a grainy black and white video.
     
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