How US gun culture compares with the world

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  1. papabear

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    I think aparments and units have them in common areas. In terms of automatic sprinkler systems, I couldnt tell you but I doubt it.
     
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    It shows how a manner of immature thinking influences a persons actions and life style choices.

    I could understand a person not owning firearms, but to equate a fire extinguisher in the same category as firearms, is unreal.
     
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    Okay, in all seriousness, I'm genuinely confused by this. Home fires and car fires happen all over the world. You say "different cultures", but I truly don't see how "culture" would be a factor in making what I see as the only common sense choice. How many house fires that could have been stopped in their earliest stages instead rage out of control because people don't have even the most rudimentary safety tools available to them?

    Are people where you live truly so completely committed to being totally reliant upon others? I don't ask that to be offensive or arbitrary; I'm seriously nonplussed.
     
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    Of course countries with fewer guns will have fewer gun murders. Duh.

    In other news: "BREAKING: Landlocked states have significantly fewer shark attacks than their coastal counterparts!"
     
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    Speaks volumes. Thanks.
     
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    Stand and fight v flee from trouble.
     
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    What about land sharks ?
     
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    FTR it was a pro gun fellow who made the equation not me, I just replied too it.

    Thus again the logical leap you are upset with is from a pro gunner but you try and pretend it comes from me because you are either lazy or it fits your belief system better.

    Eitherway get your **** together.
     
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    Again, I am not aware of any house fires that were not stopped due to a lack of fire extinguishers.

    Again our fire issues for households tend to be bush fires which a fire extinguisher is not going to do jack.

    Culture, well they are not for sale in most places, most people dont have them. Similar to americans all having that grinder thing in their sink.
     
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    Well....I have to play devil's advocate on this one. We on the pro-gun side regularly draw that parallel in regards to explaining our belief in being prepared. We wear seatbelts in our cars just in case of a crash and we have fire extinguishers in our homes just in case of a fire and we carry guns for self-defense just in case of a criminal attack. We ask anti-gunners who insist we're paranoid to carry guns if they keep fire extinguishers in their homes and then call them hypocrites if they choose to keep a fire extinguisher and then condemn our right to be armed "just in case." Personally, I think the core argument regarding preparation is a valid argument; YMMV.
     
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    Depends on the fire extinguisher, I suppose.

    I was once visiting a friend of mine, whose house was right along a major highway. We were sitting on his porch enjoying a beer, and a moron in a passing car threw his still burning cigarette butt out the window. We saw the burst of sparks as it hit the ground and bounced... and we saw the bush where it came to rest promptly burst into flames. It was a dry summer, after a surprisingly wet spring, so there was a lot of dried-out plants providing fuel for what could have become a pretty devastating fire... but my buddy and I each grabbed a fire extinguisher from our respective vehicles and ran to where the flames were beginning to grow and spread, and we managed to beat it down and keep it from spreading. While we were doing that, my friend's wife was calling the fire department.

    By the time the fire truck got there he and I were standing there, with beers in our hands, while he casually held a garden hose in his other hand wetting down the scorched area, all of twenty-five feet square.

    Obviously, every situation is different, and there are times when what we did would have been the absolute last thing you should do... but it worked in that particular scenario quite well.
     
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    so we should ban cigarettes ;)
     
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    That's something I could support!
     
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    You'd better read your insurance clauses then, and pray you don't have a grease fire or something.

    That's pretty dumb.
     
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    In just 2010, fire extinguishers account for the prevention of 5.32 million fires, and enjoy an 80% success rate.

    No guns and no fire extinguishers. What the hell are you guys doing down there?

    Australians are like victims on a stick apparently.

    http://www.engaugeinc.net/life-and-...-an-estimated-532-million-fires-in-us-in-2010
     
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    when I thought you couldnt get any kinder in sharing your opinion about a culture you do not know anything about.
     
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    Saving lives and take peoples freedoms away ;) you know I love it!
     
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    No, the National Fire Protection Association did.
     
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    Not having a fire extinguisher is just dumb, I don't care what country you live in.

    Are fires more polite in Australia or something?

    What was irritating was that you argued AGAINST having one. It's like encouraging driving with your eyes closed.
     
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    U.S. "gun culture" saved the world from the murderous ideology of Communism over the last century.

     
  22. papabear

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    The NFPA did not make you post rude and ignorant garbage, you did that all by yourself.
     
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    I'm ignorant?

    I'm not the one arguing against fire extinguishers.
     
  24. papabear

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    No I simply stated how it was here.

    As previously noted commercial / industrial (and common areas for units etc) zoned places all have fire regulations that generally includes fire extinguishers and a bunch of other fire protection stuff.

    We dont have those same regulations for residential places (except for fire alarms) and we dont have the same culture of all having fire alarms. Criticize it all you like but until you live in it you just sound ignorant.
     
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    Yes you are.
     

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