How you are being robbed of your right to vote fairly

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  1. Kode

    Kode Well-Known Member

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    No. Not at the rate it has occurred. Four votes? Twenty votes?

    Do you understand that the Republican "solutions" to this non-existent problem will disenfranchise voters, mainly of democrats?
     
  2. Bluesguy

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    I don't need studies, are you trying to claim there are never close elections in this country? Counting all the votes that were cast in every election and then coming up with some "we only found this many fraudulent votes" is folly and just another strawman. This is not only just the statewide but all the county and city elections.

    Again I ask how many fraudulently votes would it have taken in this years Virginia statehouse election to not just sway the election but determine which party controlled the state house? How many to decide the Al Franken/Norm Coleman Senate race? How many to change the outcome in Florida 2000 and decide who would be the next President?
     
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    How about one?
     
  4. Kode

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    I don't need your "explanations". Voter fraud is a proven non-problem.
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    How is not giving poor people rich people's money punishing them? And why did you only respond to the first line of my reply to you? Were you not capable of coming up with answers to the rest?
     
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    Now that you have gotten personal, I'm done.
     
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    No, I didn't say that.
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    You've proved nothing of the sort and now obfuscate.
    I asked how many fraudulently votes would it have taken in this years Virginia statehouse election to not just sway the election but determine which party controlled the state house? How many to decide the Al Franken/Norm Coleman Senate race? How many to change the outcome in Florida 2000 and decide who would be the next President?

    How rampant would voter fraud have to have been to change those elections? Are you claiming there are never any close elections in this country?
     
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    I proved nothing??? I'm the one who posted studies and facts. You're the one who said you need no studies. I guess you meant your private opinion suffices for you. It isn't sufficient for me though.
     
  10. Bluesguy

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    I'm posting an actual elections not some extrapolated studies.

    I asked how many fraudulently votes would it have taken in this years Virginia statehouse election to not just sway the election but determine which party controlled the state house? How many to decide the Al Franken/Norm Coleman Senate race? How many to change the outcome in Florida 2000 and decide who would be the next President?

    How rampant would voter fraud have to have been to change those elections? Are you claiming there are never any close elections in this country?

    Adding up ALL the votes in EVERY election in the country and getting some HUGE number and then saying "see these are all the cases of voter fraud we found", when we aren't even looking for to any degree, and dividing them and getting a specious percentage and then claiming "see it is almost nonexistent" is FOLLY and statistical fraud. I cited just three KEY elections that could have been swayed by one of you multi-decimals percentages. Deal with actual elections and actual results.
     
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    I'm not going to do your work. If you have data, post it, --with links.
     
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    Me>> I asked how many fraudulently votes would it have taken in this years Virginia statehouse election to not just sway the election but determine which party controlled the state house? How many to decide the Al Franken/Norm Coleman Senate race? How many to change the outcome in Florida 2000 and decide who would be the next President?

    QUOTE="Kode, post: 1069788127, member: 70481"]I'm not going to do your work. If you have data, post it, --with links.[/QUOTE]

    You don't know, I just told you about Virgina, ONE vote. Are you pleading ignorance the Virginia state election resulting in a TIE? I may have to search back in your post because it was discussed. Don't take my word for it copy and paste "virigina election tie" and pick your own.

    Franken beat Coleman by 225 votes, you are pleading ignorance of the Franken/Coleman election and the recounts and lawsuits in that contest and votes somehow showing up? Don't take my word for it paste "franken coleman election" and pick your own.

    The Bush/Gore election and Florida 2000 and the final margin you REALLY don't know about that?

    How rampant would voter fraud have to have been to change those elections? Are you claiming there are never any close elections in this country?
     
  13. Kode

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    You don't know, I just told you about Virgina, ONE vote. Are you pleading ignorance the Virginia state election resulting in a TIE? I may have to search back in your post because it was discussed. Don't take my word for it copy and paste "virigina election tie" and pick your own.

    Franken beat Coleman by 225 votes, you are pleading ignorance of the Franken/Coleman election and the recounts and lawsuits in that contest and votes somehow showing up? Don't take my word for it paste "franken coleman election" and pick your own.

    The Bush/Gore election and Florida 2000 and the final margin you REALLY don't know about that?

    How rampant would voter fraud have to have been to change those elections? Are you claiming there are never any close elections in this country?[/QUOTE]
    When elections are close, a recount is called for and votes are scrutinized. But the one thing you don't want to see in the debate is this kind of thing: https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...stricts/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.35301a9ff745
     
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    When it is close they tabulate the ballots again that's all. Dodge noted. Again it can take just one fraudulent vote or in the other two a few hundred so stop with the "it must be massive" to affect the outcome canard.
     
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    So say you.
    But news reports show where booths are closed down before the work day ends so that people are denied the right to vote. In order instances, people are told they are not properly registered or need to vote in another district. All discussed previously.
     
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    So says the law everyone in GA can vote their vote. If the voter has not shown the concern or taken the care to know where to vote they have no constitutional protection.
     
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    Avoid gerrymandering by making House elections State wide, and if 4 seats in the State are up for election the top 4 vote getters win.
     
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    That happened to me the first year I was old enough to vote, the polls remained open for over an hour more until a Judge was brought to the poll and put me in the registry and allowed me to vote.
     
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    I want a Rep who represents MY district and the concerns of where I live not those who live 300 miles away.
     
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    That would be nice, but you might find a candidate who is more acceptable in another area of the State who is more acceptable than the ones you currently have available, and you would get to vote in each House election, not just the ones where your districts candidate is up for re-election. I just wish ALL politicians would be more representative of their constituents views, rather than their big contributors, lobbyists, and their party.
     
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    The reason for a candidate from my district IS to represent my views and those of my district and our local concerns.
     
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    sadly republicans have taken it to the extreme, but I think any party that is going extinct is gonna try every dirty trick they can to try to survive, republicans know the end is near for them unless they cheat
     
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    As long as they're doing that, we have no reason to complain or change anything.
     

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