Huge Russian military exercise in September

"people everywhere do want democracy"

Maybe so, or maybe not, but look what happens every time you come along and give it to them? Official corruption, religious extremism, and sectarian factions thrive, so their lives are made even more miserable than they were. If you don't understand the local rationale, customs, religious affiliations, and cultural differences - and in the middle east region you obviously don't? And on the other hand, who does?? - it's best to leave them alone, because all that happens is that the bodies of your young 'lions' start coming home in body bags.

Because of the quoting error, I can't easily answer any more of your questions.

 

The US, because your constant (some would say 'neurotic') accusations against Russia sounds like warmongering, thereby causing China to believe you might attack, and they'd be next. You have bases nearby, so in that event the US would have an unfair advantage.

No, I'd call it 'Putin sorting out a few little local difficulties'. The West does not know the facts or nuances of the sides, and therefore shouldn't make guesses that could well be incorrect. We keep doing that, and look what happens every effing time?

Er, since NATO held highly provocative military exercises (and still might be for all I know) on Russia's doorstep? How would you feel if Russia unilaterally held military exercises on yours - say somewhere like Cuba?

I didn't say that; I was referring to the military attack about 6 months ago led by the US, and involving France and the UK.

I didn't know the Chinese are there (if you mean in Syria); and the Russians have been and still are there to destroy the global jihadists. I've already mentioned it.

I don't know what the people of the ME are concerned about, and neither do you. They're different to us, very different. And smarter too, if Bitter Lake is an indicator.

g'nite - don't let the bed bugs bite!!??

 

During the cold war they were the greatest threat, they enslaved eastern Europe and most judged them by the actions of Stalin. Recently, they are almost entirely demonized by the Left who are using them as their excuse for their princess not being crowned. If they can make them out to be the great enemy, they can push the narrative that Trump is being a traitor by just talking with them. Yes I know some here say Russia /= USSR.

 

Sure it is.
The difference is, when you do it you want a cookie, and when they do it, it's because Satan told them to.



The forcing of democracy on people at gunpoint is not a high moral crusade.

 

What you call a phenomenon is your opinion, nothing more. These self-fabricated categories are not accurate in any way. You sound as if you've talked to pretty much every Western European, every lefty and pretty much everybody in barbaric regimes. Certainly not the case.

Almost a decade old, an Article from 2009 that talks about the job crisis at that time in Germany and how people who couldn't find a job at home started looking for work in other countries, no. one destination being Switzerland. I very much doubt the Brits would be speaking German "if it wasn't for the help of you know who."

 

Too late.
**** ****, crap.
We've been speaking German since they invaded. It's part of our language and our heritage.
We passed it on the the Yanks too. They speak it as well, they just don't realise that they do.

 

I think your propensity for looking at the world in terms of good and evil and good guys and bad guys is as scary to me as any jihadi talk.
The whole democracy thing, doesn't help either.

 

The US is never going to attack China and they know it. Nor is China going to attack the US.

"Sorting out a few local difficulties" in other nations" seems to be a euphemism for Imperialism.

The USSR was the most aggressive imperialist movement in modern history and their tremendous negative effects are still felt today.

Several countries are involved in the region, including China and Russia, but you believe the democracies are behaving badly? It seems dictatorial governments have always been getting a pass, and that's exclusively from the Left.

There are several articles on China being involved. http://www.martinjacques.com/articl...-will-have-significance-in-chinas-road-drive/

When the Americans were in Iraq it was "All About Oil" but for the Russians it's all about destroying Jihad? That seems naive.

Their culture is different but other basic human desires remain the same. http://www.pewglobal.org/2012/07/10...ersonal-freedoms-and-islam-in-political-life/

I took your advice, thanks.

 

It must be terrible for these poor people to live under the constant threat of democracy.

 

There is good and evil in the world and, as adults, we should be able to understand which is which. Body counts and attitudes toward basic human rights are often great indicators.

 

Taiwan.
Will the US defend Taiwan against China.

Because in Chinese eyes Taiwan is China.

China has just deployed troops in Afghanistan. It;s second external military deployment.
The absolutely vast amphibious capability it has built for it's massive navy very much suggests it will retake Taiwan.

I suggest not by force. But by politicking.

Will the US attack China, it has been provoking them at their naval bases and in the air for years.
"Freedom of the seas" and spy planes.

Further to this it has been gunning to conquer North Korea, with military exercises to this ends every year.
Korea is the historic invasion route to China.

Sabres are being rattled. The war will come.
All it takes is for one side to militarily eclipse the other.
When parity is lost, war will occur.

 

Which is exactly how they see it too.

The only difference is, you think it's a joke.

Because of your zealotry you cannot believe others wish to live a different life to you.
Have different systems, moralities and aspirations to you.
Ones which you consider to be evil, but they consider to be good.

And Jihadi's have the same problem. They think their way is intrinsically good (vs evil).

 

Great Britain was once the most power force in the world, and I say it was a force for good, but have since become a footnote since passing the baton to the US during WWll. Many Brits have not accepted this transfer with the grace many expected.

 

Who will you be supporting in this impending battle?

 

I agree that the anglosphere capital has moved to America.

The same resentments Americans used to feel for Britain are now flowing in the opposite direction.


Because we are so culturally alike I of course favour American systems and moralities to say Iran's.
Iranians however, don't and shouldn't ever be expected to.

That does not make them evil. Just different.

 

I didn't realize they spoke either. It's a common enough error.

 

Anglo is short for Anglo-Saxon.
Both were German tribes.

I'm not sure I expect it to be in my life time.

I expect to be supporting America. But as we can see with Vietnam, there are no guarantees that Britain will be willing to get involved in a war we have no self interest in.

 

Americans have never ressented Britain until the internet came along and British attitudes were revealed. The same holds true for all of western Europe. Most Americans had assumed, incorrectly, that all the democracies were on the same side.

As you can see by many responses, Americans are now indifferent, at a minimum. to European criticisms.

I was all for thiis rather than the UN but it seems too late now. https://www.explorersfoundation.org/archive/anglosphere_primer.pdf

 

WTF are you talking about.
You went to war with us.

You branded us evil and went out of your way to kill us and those who supported us.
Apparently we were oppressing you. Tyranising you with our Democracy.

Inflicting it on the Irish too.
How evil we were to deny you slavery. Oo.
How wicked we were to subsidise your country. Destroy your enemies. Build your cities.

Oh yes mate, you can give it but you can't take it.


And the reason? Because you live in a 2D world. Good and evil.

 

Yes, I'm familiar with the history but Americans are not speaking German. The English language has stolen words from every other language and Bill Bryson has written a couple of very interesting books on the subject. https://www.amazon.ca/Mother-Tongue-English-How-that/dp/0380715430


China is in decline and will not be a major threat to any of the democracies during either of our lifetimes..

 

Who is "us"?

 

The British.

You know your history well enough.

 

Russia has invaded and occupied territory belonging to its neighbors. This is unacceptable behavior and there's no spin that makes it okay.

 

Why is it unacceptable?

Your country invades places all the time.
So does mine.

Some places need to be invaded.


When Russia invaded Afghanistan it was unacceptable, but when you did it, oh...totally fine.
Sorry. Nuh uh.
Doesn't work like that.

 

Are you supplying decoder rings or do you intend to explain why Obama is more blameworthy that other U.S. presidents?