Huge Russian military exercise in September

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  1. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OK, if the battlefield was North and South Korea, in a conventional war (no nukes), yes, South Korea could be overrun. I think their success or failure would depend on where it happened.
     
  2. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    ROFL ... Iraq???
    A criminal war crime of an attack and you rate it as good issue. You can't be serious!
    Yes, Saddam was a bastard, but this and the will to bring Irag democracy was not at all any intention of the uSA for that war!
    Germany did and does so in Afghanistan, Kosovo, Mali, Bosnia, against Somali Pirates ... they are also involved against ISIS by backing the Kurds with instructors and weapons in Northern Iraq and with Jets placed now in Jordan (before in Turkey, but Erdogan is an ******* and we went off from this sh**hole of country).

    And before you blame the Russians, look first in the mirror of own BS done ... but this is a superluos demand of me, because you (and others) are so blinden to see all US actions as good ... even the crime in Iraq!

    Interesting ... asking the wrong question and then not having the answer of the correct one and I am thebad boy ... lol!



    Because you live in in a fairy tale...
     
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    US dollar completely ditched in trade between Iran & Iraq – official

    The US dollar is no longer used by Tehran and Baghdad in bilateral trade, giving way to the euro and local currencies, as well as direct barter of goods, head of the Iran-Iraq Chamber of Commerce Yahya Ale-Eshagh has revealed.
    “[The] US dollar has been removed from the list of currencies used by Iran and Iraq in their trade transactions and they are using Iranian rial, euro and Iraqi dinar for financial transactions,” Ale-Eshagh said on Saturday, as quoted by local media.

    https://www.rt.com/business/437446-iran-iraq-us-dollar-ditched/
     
  4. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    How many parts of places do we occupy?
    What's the excuse for that?
     
  5. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    I'm interested in how Russia is (mis)treating its neighbors, notably Georgia, the Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia.
    Not that it matters, but I opposed the Vietnam War and the Iraq War. I won't go back to the colonial era because it doesn't really apply to today, even though is still U.S. involved with Cuba and Russian with Eastern Europe.

    BTW, your claim the U.S. is occupying Germany and Japan is utter nonsense.
     
  6. LangleyMan

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    Red Herring. Russia is occupying parts of Georgia and the Ukraine. Why won't you address this aggression?
     
  7. Baff

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    No more nonsense than your claim Russia is occupying Ukraine and Georgia.

    There are in military bases at the invite of the respective governments in the countries.
    Either it's occupation or it's not.

    I tend to agree with you.
    It's not.
    It's not, one rule for you and another for them. That's not how it works.
    You understand the set up, now apply that understanding to others doing the same thing.


    To address your primary interest.
    To the best of my knowledge Russia isn't mistreating any of it's neighbours.


    On the borders of Georgia they have JCC peacekeepers deployed and in Crimea they have a full blown Okinawa style naval facility.
    Russia has honoured it's treaty obligation to get involved in the event of any change to Ukraine's borders.
    Wherever they are, genocide isn't.


    It hasn't accepted Eastern Ukraine into the Federation. It seems to prefer a buffer state.

    Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia? Russia seems to have no particular involvement in these countries that I know of.


    It might be worth addressing the use of "Russian" mercenaries in Ukraine.
    The Vostok Brigade.

    In the first Chechen war a mercenary army defeated Russia.
    The Vostok Brigade.
    By the second Chechen War, Russia had money to pay them.
    They fought for Russia.

    The same Chechen mercenaries again fought for Russia in the Georgia war.

    Today, they and mercenaries forces like them fight on both sides of Ukraine.
    They have Russian passports and have been Russian soldiers in the past. Many of them may be Russian reservists.
     
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  8. LangleyMan

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    As if this excuses Russia occupying parts of Georgia and the Ukraine.
    Stones and glass houses...
     
  9. LangleyMan

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    It's occupation. There is no Republic of Abkhazia, nor is there a Republic of South Ossetia. Russia hasn't even bothered with the fig leaf of phoney "republics" in the Crimea.
    Russian propaganda.
     
  10. LangleyMan

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    U.S. business or not, what do you think of Russia working over its neighbors?
     
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    The neighbours they worked over highly deserved it.
    They were being genocidal at the time and killing Russian peacekeepers to boot.

    Because it isn't true.
    Crimea isn't in Ukraine. Abkhazia and Ossetia are not in Georgia.
     
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  12. LangleyMan

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    You seem to accept Russian aggression in Georgia and the Ukraine.
     
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    Who should address our "aggression"?
    Do you not care about people who are subjects of aggression, or just those who are subject to somebody else's aggression?
     
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    Who gives a ****?
    Why you got your pecker so hard over it?
     
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    Those countries exist.
    You don't wish to recognise them, but your recognition of them is unimportant to anything or anyone.
    It changes nothing.
     
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  16. LangleyMan

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    Why won't you address Russia's occupation of parts of Georgia and the Ukraine?
     
  17. LangleyMan

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    Ah, so you acknowledge the aggression.
    :yawn: :yawn: :yawn:
     
  18. LangleyMan

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    Why won't you address Russian misbehavior in the Ukraine and Georgia?
    I don't approve of a lot of U.S. behavior before or after WW2. So what?
     
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    The Russians have not misbehaved in Georgia or Ukraine. They have responded appropriately to real threats from outsiders, namely the US, NATO and Israeli provocations in those countries.
     
  20. LangleyMan

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    They're a tripwire, not a military threat.
    An absurd claim when they annexed the Crimea and have invaded other eastern parts of the Ukraine.
    It "accepted" the Crimea which is part of the Ukraine.
    Ongoing cyber attacks.
    Relevance?
     
  21. LangleyMan

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    PROPAGANDA ALERT!
     
  22. LangleyMan

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    Russian "peacekeepers" where?
    Russian propaganda.
     
  23. Mandelus

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    No ... no excuse! But if a thief accuses another thief of robbing him or someone else, it looks very ridiculous, isn't it?

    Stone and glasshouse, eh?
     
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    Repetition Alert!

    Because they don't.
     
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    Deflect, deflect, deflect.
     

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