. . . and the Christian in light of Eternity. Let us assume a worst case scenario. John Christian lived 100 years suffering severely every year he lived. He even hurt as a new born, was still hurting when he entered Kindergarten, and he hurt all the way through High School and never stopped hurting until the day he died. John Christian spent his entire life in severe pain and all his money on doctors trying to get rid of the pain. He never succeeded. When he turned 75 he quit trying and decided to "just live with it" on out to the end and he did exactly that and died at age 100, in severe pain, but trusting the Lord Jesus as his Savior. [Note: I don't think the Lord has ever allowed such as this to occur for one of His children, but I need a "worst case scenario" here in order to make my point.] John Christian, after living 100 years in severe pain dies and goes to Heaven to be with the Lord for all Eternity. What is the percent ratio of 100 years to Eternity? After John Christian had been in Heaven for 200 years, you'd have this fraction:100 divided by 200 = 0.5 After John Christian had been in Heaven for 500 years, you'd have this fraction:100 divided by 500 = 0.2 After 10,000 years, you'd have this fraction: 100 divided by 10,000 = 0.01 After 100,000 years, you'd have this fraction: 100 divided by 100,000 = 0.001 After 1,000,000 years in Heaven you'd have this fraction: 100 divided by 1,000,000 = 0.0001 After 10,000,000 years, you'd have this fraction: 100 divided by 10,000,000 = 0.00001 After 50,000,000 years, you'd have this fraction: 100 divided by 50,000,000 = 0.000002 After John Christian had been in Heaven for 100,000,000 years, you'd have this fraction: 100 divided by 100,000,000 = 0.000001 After 500,000,000 years, you'd have this fraction: 100 divided by 500,000,000 = 0.0000002 Question: How many zeros would you have after John Christian had been in Heaven for 999 trillion years? Moreover, as Eternity rolled on, there would never come a time when you would not be adding more zeros? At some point the 100 years of severe suffering experienced by John Christian in this life would become, in his mind and in his total experience, a fraction so small as to be, for all practical purposes, totally and absolutely non-existent. And again, as Eternity rolls on, the zeros would never cease to be added to the 0. At some point in Eternity, you have 999 trillion to the power of 999 trillion . . zeros. And once you reached this point, you would not even have "got started good" in adding zeros to the 0.0 God's Mercy and Grace: The mere passing of time in Eternity, will one day, for all practical purposes, reduce our earthly suffering, with regard to our total experience, in percent ratio, to a fraction so small that it will be, de facto, non-existent. Of course, all this is assuming that we have the "passing of years", in Eternity. Eternity may have a totally different concept of Time than we now experience so that we will not have to wait, say, 999 trillion "years" for our earthly suffering to, de facto, vanish into oblivion. That might happen the moment we enter Eternity. But either way all our human suffering, will, in Eternity, vanish into percent-ratio-oblivion, and for all practical purposes, cease to exist. `
Then again we could just recognize John Christian's God is a sadist. Or as I prefer to imagine, a petulant demiurge.
So quick to make the little snippy snide remarks that you didn't even let the "ink dry" and give me time to do a little editing before you moved in to add to your post count with the snide and snippy non-contribution.
Or you can think that your from slime or you created yourself and you are a god, in this case you'd be the sadist? What if we are here to pay for past sins? Fallen angels? I am not sure but I do know there is a spirit world and knowing that it has caused me to seek the truth for almost 50 years now.
I did not chose to believe, I got drafted by clairvoyant events and ghosts. Yes We agree there is something beyond the material world. No, I do not accept the God of Abraham or Jesus as "G*d". When it struck me that events, knowings, were no longer explained by coincidence, I spoke to Rabbis, Priests, Ministers, and it was a Bishop who recommended this book and introduced me to Carl Jung and the process of individualization. This book helped me out a lot. The only worth while book the author wrote. https://www.amazon.com/Tao-Psychology-Synchronicity-Self/dp/006078220X I have always had scenes like looking out someone else eyes of being a healer before. An ancient scene with herbs hanging from the ceiling and distillation going on. A Civil War scene with screams, blood and amputations driving me "mad". A horse and buggy doctor. I never told anyone until another clairvoyant told me of them and added a few details. I do not believe in past lives as much as a resonance between me and such spiritual things. Moi r > g
I feel your pain. I have had uploads quoted while I was still polishing them. Hope you feel better about Moi's above upload. #5 If not, to you too!
Oh boy. This is a really really easy one. I mean, I will shortly completely and utterly demolish your post. Heck, I don't even have to use a full sentence, it'll only require four letters. Just one word, one syllable, four letters. Shall we get to it? Hell.
♦ Undiluted peace and tranquility, is felt from the heart. . . . lol . . ♦ Remarkable empathy --- thanks for the love. ♦ Permit me to balm your cerebrum with verse: "Such is the nature of evil. Out there in the vast ignorance of the world it festers and spreads. A shadow that grows in the dark. A sleepless malice as black as the oncoming wall of night. So it ever was. So will it always be. In time all foul things come forth." __ Thranduil, The Elven King of Mirkwood
It would be an interesting consideration . . . if everyone got into Heaven. But, according to orthodox Christianity, most people will go through a few decades of off-and-on suffering followed by an eternity of sadistic torture.
I've been on the same quest for about 60 years. Went to Catholic school, but the brain washing never took with me, even as I went through the motions. It just didn't ring true. I've had paranormal events and read enough UFO folk lore and eye witness accounts to think they can't all be lying or crazy. I also don't believe life was an accident. We have a purpose. So what I was looking for had to explain creation, the spirit world(ghosts), NDEs and Ufology and I found it. I'd like to recommend for starters "Many Lives Many Masters by Dr. Brian Weiss.
Thank you for your astute insights. They were intellectually overwhelming. Here is your reward: ___________________ A Brief, But Interesting, Literary Moment. Tarrant Hightopp to the Chessur cat: "You ran out on them to save your own skin, you guddler's scuttish pilgar-lickering, shukm-juggling sluking urpal. Bar lom muck egg brimni."__Tarrant Hightopp "What's the matter with you Tarrant? You used to be the life of the party, and the best Futterwacken (dancer) in all of Wonderland."__Chessur. "When the Red Queen is no more, then I shall Futterwacken vigorously."__Tarrant Hightopp (From the 2010 film Alice In Wonderland) Tarrant Hightopp aka The Hatter aka The Mad Hatter. __________ Additionally, may The **Force be with you at all times. i.e. the **police force . . . lol . .
Just as a point of interest, Orthodox Christianity is beginning to publish major works on Conditionalism, which utterly repudiates the notion of Eternal Conscious Torment. LINK (I'm only mentioning this, in passing, FYI)
It seems you have traded one book for another. In close study I have found more answers to questions and mysteries in the Bible than all others. I still study and seek on my own to find the truth,which I don't feel any of us ever really find all the truth. Most never study in depth only what is popular. No questions ask about Cains wife, Enoch, Pyrimids, Giants, Chariots, Wheels, Round earth that hangs upon nothing,etc,etc,etc,. All important facts of interest left out of mainstream religions. Couple very basic one is we were known before we were in the belly, or " I knew you before you were born ". How is this possible if we were not spiritual identities before ?
I try to mostly study on past and present things and on my own mostly. So much of ancient history is coming into the picture today. From Enoch to Nimrod and I too have had undeniable OBE spiritual beings and ETE experiences and it has pushed to to learn. One of my first ones was falling backwards off a porch and something pushed me back up onto the porch in mid air. But nobody will ever believe you so I don't tell it usually.
That's not even the point of Christianity. The point of Christianity is who complains. If John Christian himself doesn't complain, disregarding how long he suffered in his earthly time, then why should you!?
Who or what is John Christian's G*d? Per upload #1. If the "all" and everything deity then evil is part of the all? Yes? If less than the "all", then one of more than one battling evil? Nice verse. But, this is about the woes of John Christian, yes? Moi
Or he lived 100 years in pain and misery and died only to have his constituent atoms recycled by a completely oblivious and uncaring universe, in which case he couldn't think let alone forget the pain of his entire existence.
~ John's last name was a poetic vehicle to designate Christianity. ~ "Upload" for "post" --- that's unusual re-naming, but not uncool. Thanks. Tolkien can touch your mind and sometimes your heart. No. It was nothing more than "balm for your brain" and had nothing to do with the OP. Here's another one for ya: "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost. From the ashes a fire shall be woken, A light from the shadows shall spring; Renewed shall be the blade that was broken, The crownless again shall be king."__Tolkien You're sortofa an unusual dude right? I mean like you see things the rest of us don't see. Orange Julius has that gift too, btw. . . . lol . . .
That assumes since God obviously enjoyed making John Christian suffer for a hundred years God wouldn't get even more jollies making John suffer for eternity.
Clairvoyants are not the most "normal" people. The knowing sometimes conflicts with the rational expectations of others. Again, I was drafted. I never signed up, Chanted, Meditated. I just get struck with knowing. Usually on health issues. One cannot be an atheist and have these experiences. They are not rational nor scientific. I do reject the Bible god. I do believe the Bible as history, etc. The Book of Ruth is my favorite part. https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=ruth&qs_version=CEB Judges 4 staring Deborah, Barak, Sisera and Ya'el is another fav. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Judges+4&version=CEB Gotta wonder if Ya'el violated the Laws of Hospitality. And if John Christian's god were the one, then I stand by my first upload that you did not appreciate so highly. Moi
