Hyphenated Americans should get half a vote

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  1. Josephwalker

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    Call yourself African American, Mexican American etc and only the American half should get to vote in an American election. All voters should have to sign a legal document before voting and check the box for American or half American and their vote should be counted accordingly.
    I'm sure most would opt for full voting privileges and we could force these people to legally identify as Americans. It would be a moral victory if nothing else and their would be a sense of satisfaction in forcing these hyphenated Americans into signing such a document.
     
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    Does this go for Italian-American's and Irish-American's? It's curious you only mentioned blacks and Mexican's in your OP.
     
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    What about "old-American?" Am I safe to vote?
     
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    Where are the hyphens?
     
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    That might be a great idea for creating a sense of unity that is sorely needed---except for the fact that there is a core European-American element that refuses to accept those who don't look or sound like 'us' as a part of our nation. We hold 'them' at arm's length with our stereotypes and prejudices.
     
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    What kind of myopia is needed in order to start a thread openly advocating Minority Voter Suppression?

    Can you imagine the OUTRAGE that would ensue were someone on the left to advocate that those who self identify as "white nationalists" should be denied the right to vote for the utterly vacuous reason that the term "American" is not included in that self identification?

    There was obviously not much consideration put into the concept and it comes across as something that might originate from a school playground.

    Sad!
     
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    Does that also apply to Muslim American, Christian American, Jewish American? Oh, lets not forget Native American.
     
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    What? Texans don't get a vote? Cuban-Americans get half a vote? ( I notice you left them off the list because they usually vote Republican). Republicans don't get a vote ( don't see the word "American" in their identification)?
     
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    I don't think the OP thought this out very well.
     
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    Anyone that insist in being half American should get half a vote.
     
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    I've never heard anyone from Texas identify as Texan American but on the subject of Texans you gotta love this song! LMAO


     
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    Never heard anyone identify as European American
     
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    You know that those various ethnic groups did not name themselves with hyphens? That was thrust upon them.

    Beyond that, the idea is absurd. Some people should have less than 100% of their vote because of their race and/or ethnicity? That means it would apply to EVERYONE since nobody was here except Native Americas. Well, that would make sense. Native Americans would get 100% and EVERYONE else would get 50%.
     
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    Thrust on them? I don't think so. Thats their choice.
    Your native American idea makes no sense. They were a thousand individual tribes before America united them under one flag
     
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    Are you kidding? Labels were put upon people. Not the other way around.

    So, the people already in America when it was "discovered" aren't *fully* American (so don't get 100% vote) but the people that annexed their land qualify because they are the majority?
     
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    Entirely wrong. People choose to self identify as hyphenated Americans. Nobody forces them to call themselves anything.
    If a Native American wants to call themselves Apache American or Navaho American etc they too should get half a vote but I’ve never heard any of them do that. It seems to mostly be an African and Mexican thing.
    My ancestors were Scotch Irish but I’ve never once called myself Scotch Irish American. You come here from another country you should be willing to be 100% American or lose 50% of your vote.
     
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    Nobody chooses to label themselves. People are labeled by others who want to fit everyone into their defined boxes.

    What does "being 100% American" mean?
     
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    The OP is about self identifying as half American. What someone else calls you is irrelevant and an attempt at obfuscation.
    Being 100% American means your allegiance is 100% to America. Simple really isn’t it.
     
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    You don't get to make the laws so sorry you don't get what you want as a dictator.
     
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    Sorry no law against how one identifies themselves as...I know you want to create a tyranny but you would lose if you tried.
     
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    They sold them for beer money.
     
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    No obfuscation. People don't label themselves so they don't see themselves as half *anything* connected to being American.

    No, it's not simple, clearly. Are you suggesting a person with a hyphenated label cannot have 100% allegiance to America?
     
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    Good idea. Not only are they no longer hyphenated Americans, thus acquiring a full vote, but they got some brews out of the deal. Smart people.
     
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    What about bi-racial people? Are they one third American?
     
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    But there are many who identify as Irish-American, Italian-American, etc. Let me guess....those people are ok and still get a full vote. Only them blacks and Mexican's get the half vote, amiright???
     

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