I Am the 1 Percent Used to Justify 100 Percent of Abortions

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  1. Daniel Light

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    But you claim the life is separate - so it's should be more like opening the door and taking the the fetus to another room if the fetus is indeed a separate entity like you claim.
     
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    I actually agree with your arguments about rape and rape doesn't justify murder. However I don't view the first cell during conception as a human person with human rights, I believe that its person-hood develops during the development process and we have to decide where to draw the line. I don't think it is right to force a woman to harm her body to sustain the life of a fetus with partial person-hood any more than you should be forced to donate your kidney to someone who really needs it. I think abortion should be allowed to the point that a baby can be removed safety and survive.
     
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    So you agree life begins at conception and it is morally wrong to kill the unborn baby.
     
  4. Daniel Light

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    Then you should be championing every anti-pollution law, because pollution kills 20,000 kids a year who have respiratory problems. You should be championing every food safety regulation, because food born illness kills thousands of kids every year.
    You should be championing well-baby clinics, and food programs to help the hungry. You should cry out that every dime wasted on anti-abortion laws should be spent on incubators and health facilities for newborns ... but what I see from anti-abortion fanatics is the chant to do away with safety regulations because they hurt business, do away with financial support to clinics, do away with food programs for the poor, cut down on time off for pregnancy, stop programs to get poor people insurance that covers pregnancy and complications ...

    No - I don't believe you for one second.
     
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  5. Bluesguy

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    We are pro-life of the baby in the womb but that takes a lot of typing, you know what issue we are addressing why the attempt to conflate it with other unconnected issues. Can we assume all who are pro-abortion should therefore support capital punishment are for war and against the environment?
     
  6. Daniel Light

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    God believe in abortion ... He allows thousands of them to happen every day through miscarriage. If God seriously hated abortion, he would make every egg perfect, every uterus perfect, every baby would be born healthy. But the reality is, over 50% of all fertilized eggs never make it past the first month. That's reality.
     
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    I don't think he said you specifically but since your belief about abortion is God's will certainly you do believe abortion is morally wrong and even murder under the eyes of your God.
     
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    Is there a difference? There are none who were born that weren't first unborn. They are one-in-the-same. To kill one is to kill the other.
     
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    Sure - if you find people who are pro abortion. I don't know any.
     
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    LMAO...So, you want to turn the unborn into the undead, eh?
    And how many of them will you adopt?
     
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    Yeah yeah, “Ever notice prochoicers have already been born?” It wasn’t clever the first time it was uttered, what makes you think it’s a good argument now?
     
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    What makes you think it is against "god's will?"
     
  13. Bluesguy

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    You don't support abortion as it is practiced in this country? What do you have against abortions then? What about your beliefs about abortion are anti?
     
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    Being "born" is just the point of passing from the womb to outside the womb. Yet, the life that lived in the womb (unborn) is the same life that lives outside the womb (born). Thus, to kill one is to kill the other.

    Why are these things so difficult for you?
     
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    I support programs to reduce abortion; education, well-baby clinics, better training for doctors and more funding for incubators and hospitals. I support finding some type of health care insurance for the poor so it reduces the financial strain that contributes to the decision for so many abortions.

    Reduce the reasons people have to get abortions, and we'll reduce the number of abortions. That's what happens in the real world.
     
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    The life in the womb goes through drastic progression and growth during incubation. To claim the child born from the womb is the same as it is at the point of conception is simply incorrect.

    If I plant a seed then dig it up a month later did I cut down a tree?
     
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    No, I want to give the unborn life the right to be born. Better than turning the unborn life into the dead, eh?
     
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    Science (biology) tells us that the Human life cycle begins at conception and ends with natural death.

    Harm her body? Pregnancy is a natural function. Donating a kidney is not. Do not conflate the two.
     
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    Why what do you have against abortion and what kind of programs. Every time the pro-life/anti-abortion side promotes such thing we are told to keep out none of our business.


    Like educating the mothers on what actually happens in an abortion, showing them the ultrasounds of their baby in the womb so they are more educated about it? What kind of education?


    I don't know who doesn't and has nothing to do with killing the baby, those are need for the babies the mother doesn't kill.

    Well full employment and rising incomes helps do that, is there some study that shows the numbers of abortions follow economic numbers? And of course childless couples are BEGGING for new born babies so no need to kill the baby.

    Reduce the reasons people have to get abortions, and we'll reduce the number of abortions. That's what happens in the real world.[/QUOTE]

    But what about the abortion itself? Why do you and others refuse to discuss YOUR opinion of abortion ITSELF. Dodging and using phony euphemisms?
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Abortion. What is that? Left-winger logic?
     
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    You want us to believe that a child in the womb has no more value than a plant seedling?
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    That's what abortion is. That would kill it. That's what we are trying to avoid. Try to keep up.
     
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    I never claimed you murder people.
     
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    Can a newborn make any decisions on its own?
     
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    When do the innocent have a choice?
     

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