I don't post here much anymore because . . .

As a Pothead, I was assured this administration would make destroying the Legalization trend priority one too tho....

Not that I worried about it.


For the reasons you listed.

Well put.

 

No. It represents the 13 Southern states that fough the north in the civil war. St Andrew's cross represents a saint and that is the very opposite of "hate".

 

those states engaged in treason

a saint would not be killing anyone

 

The Founding Fathers committed treason too.

 

Er, there were only 11 states in the confederacy.

The CSA stole two Union state stars and claimed them as their own.

 

Look: Levying war against the US is treason. There is no debate about this. It is.


Treason against the United States shall consist in levying war against them.

Did our Founders have representation? No. That was the Casus belli of the Revolutionary war. And even as our Founders were signing the DoI, they knew their acts were treasonous and they would be hung if they lost.

"We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately." -- Benjamin Franklin at the signing of the Declaration of Independence

“If this be treason, make the most of it.” - Patrick Henry





Did the south have representation -- and this thing called a ballot box? Why yes, yes they did. *That* in a republic, is how change is affected.

Let's ask one of Washington's contemporaries, that patriotic rebel Sam Adams -- what he thought about rebellion when The People have representation:

"Rebellion against a king may be pardoned, or lightly punished, but the man who dares to rebel against the laws of a republic ought to suffer death. " -Samuel Adams

 

The Founders committed treason against the Crown in their desire to have their own land and be free, the same exact thing the Confederates did against a "union" they wanted no part of. "Oh but THAT treason was OK!" is really all your offerings boil down to.

I bet you support #Calexit.

 

Do you understand the difference between winning and losing?

It appears you do not.

The
South
LOST.

Badly.

 

& Let this sink in again, seeing as how so many of you neo-confeds seem to ignore it. -------------------> Did the south have representation -- and this thing called a ballot box?

Why yes, yes they did. *That* in a republic, is how change is affected.

Let's ask one of Washington's contemporaries, that patriotic rebel Sam Adams -- what he thought about rebellion when The People have representation:

"Rebellion against a king may be pardoned, or lightly punished, but the man who dares to rebel against the laws of a republic ought to suffer death. " -Samuel Adams

 

Oh, so treason itself isn't a bad thing if you win. Is that your progressive argument?

 

This is a GREAT multi-topic thread!

Kudos @ChrisL !

 

No. That is the argument that has been made since the beginning of time, civilizations and governments.

If you're going to attempt to revolt and take up arms against the king, the gov't, the rulers -- you better damn well win.

You win -- you own it.

You lose -- <motion of finger across neck>

 

Well, who cares. My point remains that a flag is a flag is a flag - "Dixie flag" is not a symbol of hate if you don't want it to be one. As far as I am concerned, seccession is a good thing and I would not mind an independent Dixie Land.

 

Well, if you're going to spout as if you know history, you should at least know the basic facts.

 

I had no idea this thread would just go on and on and on. Oh well, it's nice to have a place to just chat and not have to stick strictly to the topic.

 

I think it is better for everyone that we remain the United States actually. I have nothing against any flags or symbols though. They just don't upset me very much, no matter what they stand for. I see more upsetting things on TV, for goodness sake!

 

I hurt my foot and it is really hurting right now. Ouchie.

 

I quit posting here for a while because I was just too busy and I also just didn't feel compelled. I have a little more free time these days so Im back! It doesn't really seem too boring to me though.

 

Well, I made this thread a while ago and things were really slow and boring then.

 

Not really, no. While treason is indeed a common element, the American revolutionaries were not fighting for the right to enslave other people; so if the principles enunciated in the DoI are sound, surely the first rebellion was rather more deserving of success than the second.

 

1. Denial: When a reality feels too overwhelming to accept, many people will—to some degree or another—deny that the reality exists. For example, upon hearing the news of a death it is not uncommon to deny the news or argue that the death could not have occurred.
This could be the reason in March when you posted the boring aspect of the forum, with recounts, trying to coerce the electoral college , and hildi winning the popular vote in Calif. denial was in abundance. Remember Hildi in a landslide? That had to leave a mark.
2. Anger: Anger is a natural emotional response to feeling wronged or harmed. For many people, the death of a loved one can feel “unfair,” which can lead to feelings of anger, and can sometimes lead to searching for someone to blame for the death (and therefore someone to be angry at).
This is now and most probably for the next 4 to 8 years, maybe longer.
3. Bargaining: After experiencing a loss, it is common to wish things back to the way they were before the loss, which in turn can lead to thoughts of what could have been done differently before the loss occurred. These thoughts often take the form of imagining “What if...” or “If only...” in an attempt to negotiate an alternate reality.
This won't happen
4. Depression: When someone is fully present and engaged in the grief he or she is experiencing, it is common to feel sad, lonely, and hopeless.
This I'm afraid is going to last at least 4 years , maybe longer.

5. Acceptance: To reach acceptance is to fully understand that the person who has lost the election is gone forever and that this new reality of life without that person is the permanent reality.
This will never happen especially with the alt-left. Most reasonable Democrats have already accepted the fact they have to wait until next time.

 

I am quite radical and know only a few loonies sympathise with my ideas. I advocate a complete butchering of the world's nations in smaller, autonomous regions in order to minimise government power and increase individual liberty.

 

You forgot the "and you probably want to bone your daddy" to complete this pile of Freudian nonsense.

 

Have no idea what you mean, but I can tell several of the steps are pointed in your direction, I sense you're still in the anger phase.

 

Angry over what?