"I don't think the pilot's religion is necessarily what's we should be looking for."

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  1. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Marseille prosecutor Brice Robin was asked point black what the religion of the pilot was and his response was

    "I don't think it's necessarily what we should be looking for."

    My take - political correctness at full work here. While we don't know the religion of the pilot yet, if he was a recent convert to Islam, it is of importance. We need to stop pretending like there isn't a religion out there that is looking for total domination under a theocratic Caliphate.

    https://news.yahoo.com/andreas-lubitz--what-we-know-about-the-co-pilot-of-airbus-320-123246684.html
     
  2. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    Let's say he is muslim, then what ?
     
  3. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, if he was a Muslim then it's imperative we beginning looking into who he was involved with. Let's not act like Mormons have the reputation with airplanes that Muslims have.
     
  4. publican

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    Then keep digging into his background.
     
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    You do realize that they aren't just completely ignoring that right? They of course are looking into ALL his past at this point. They aren't just going to go "Oh look, his religion was Islam, well let's just skip that". What is most likely is they don't want to release anything until they have had a chance to look at all the evidence in his past as well.
     
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    http://abcnews.go.com/US/germanwings-pilot-appeared-destroy-plane-prosecutor/story?id=29918529

    The co-pilot of the Germanwings plane that crashed in the French Alps this week appeared to want to "destroy the plane," Brice Robin, public prosecutor of Marseille, said today.

    "The intention was to destroy the plane," he said, later adding, "Death was instantaneous."

    Speaking at a news conference conducted mostly in French, Robin confirmed reports about the pilot being heard on the voice recorder asking co-pilot Andreas Lubitz, a German citizen, to take over the controls, with a chair heard being moved and door heard closing.

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    The co-pilot, 28, took control, Robin said, and the accelerated descent was made manually.
     
  7. Brewskier

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    Sounds like they are already planning on doing damage control if and when it comes out that this guy converted to Islam 6 months ago.

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    Then European countries can hopefully put a moratorium on Islamic immigration.
     
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    But how would we use that information moving forward?
     
  9. Turin

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    Then we can classify it as terrorism.

    Remember. ONLY muslims commit acts of terrorism.
     
  10. Colonel K

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    A major factor was that the pilot couldn't get back in to the cockpit through the reinforced door. One instant change could be to reinstate the third crewman, so that no-one is ever left alone at the controls. Many companies already ban the pilots from leaving the cockpit during short-haul flights such as this.

    I just found this:

    "...According to cockpit voice recordings reported by the International Business Times, the co-pilot left to use the bathroom, and when he returned, he found the door shut. Inside, the pilot had switched the plane’s altitude reading from 38,000 feet to ground level, IBT reports. Recordings show someone pounded on the door to the cockpit as the plane plummeted. Investigators later concluded the plane had crashed because of “intentional actions by the pilot.” ..."

    It's about a plane crash in Namibia in Southern Africa in 2012. It's rare but not unknown for pilots to kill themselves by flying into the ground. 24 Americans have done it (solo) in the last twenty years.
     
  11. publican

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    They have 99% of the market cornered. Show me otherwise.
     
  12. Thirty6BelowZero

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    Very scary because you never know, NOW, what to expect from a man or woman holding a professional position. They used to be viewed as professionals, now they're viewed as just some guy that can fly a plane.
     
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    It appears the co-pilot intentionally put the aircraft into a steep descent...

    Regardless of his "religion," if this is indeed the cause of the accident, I can all but imagine the sheer terror felt by those passengers and crew in the 9 minute journey from altitude to the side of a mountain.

    Again if these allegations have even a spark of truth; if there is a Hell, real or imagined, this co-pilot deserves his place there and may he rot in peace...

    Human excrement is all he is.

    I cannot fathom a human being taking the lives of so many innocent people unless motivated by pure evil intentions. I don't accept mental illness as an excuse, this was an act of evil if this proves to be the causative factor in the chain of events.
     
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    We're at a point that it doesn't matter anymore. If you put three pilots up there, and there are acts of terrorism desired, then there will be two pilots working together. It'll get a little more complicated on their behalf but they'll pull it off if they want to bad enough. Things have gotten bad, I'll just stay on the ground or use my boss's plane. I know the pilot personally.
     
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    Asking his religion (state of mind) is as relevant as asking if he was ever an alcoholic or a drug user or had too much debt or had family problems or a history of depression, it is simply a part of investigation until the boxes or something says it was mechanical...

    Might as well also say:

    "I don't think the pilot's mental illness is necessarily what we should be looking for."
     
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    It is astounding, that after all the speculations made about an implication of ismalic terrorism, it comes out the one and only culpript was a suicidal pilot, maybe after some kind of delusion in life. 150 deads and no isis involved.
     
  17. Rainbow Crow

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    Like someone said in another thread, the inability of the main pilot to get through or have a key to the door is because of fears of Muslim terrorists, so it's possibly their fault either way.
     
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    I do agree. A lot of things are important to investigate--the co-pilot's religion and mental status, and possibly if anything stressful has recently occurred in his life--a breakup, a divorce, etc.

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    Then they check to see if he has radical ties.
     
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    While I understand the need to be able to lock the cabin, perhaps an Over-ride code that only the captain knows might have helped this situation?

    All in all a sad moment to be sure.

    Also, towards those discussion his religion - If this was for religious reasons, I would have thought that he might have had Something to say in those 9 minutes, rather then just breathing heavily. I would think that he would have used that time to express his reasons, as they are usually wont to do.
     
  20. Brewskier

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    And you know Islamic terrorism was not involved, how? Wishful thinking? We just learned this guy's name. We've only scratched the surface.
     
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    " Andreas Lublitz ". Well at least doesn't sound islamic, the name. As for the rest, we know very little yes... they will surely investigate now about the pilot's life and what happened to him.
     
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    The French authorities have just admitted that the German government fully intends to research every nuance of the co-pilot's background . . . including his religious affiliations, if any. So absolutely nothing is off the table since this suicide pilot just murdered all those people.
     
  23. HonestJoe

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    So if he's not Muslim, they shouldn't bother doing that? I suspect the statement from the official was effectively "We shouldn't be looking to identify the pilot as a Muslim just so we can simply blame the cash on Islam and be done with it".
     
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    The sad thing is that this POS killed more people than most serial killers... Mutually assured destruction doesn't work when the other side is suicidal.
     
  25. heresiarch

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    The sad thing is, the door leading to the pilots cabin is obligatory armored after the recent terrorist attacks, so there was no way to break into the cabin after the suicidal pilot locked himself in. The main pilot who was out to the toilet tried many times to break in but to no avail.
     

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