"I don't think the pilot's religion is necessarily what's we should be looking for."

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Channe, Mar 26, 2015.

  1. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    51,629
    Likes Received:
    22,933
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It's astounding that he's accomplished so much, like landing on the moon, in such a debilitating condition.
     
  2. Goomba

    Goomba Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2011
    Messages:
    10,717
    Likes Received:
    161
    Trophy Points:
    63
    I don't deny is positive qualities. Everyone has 'em.
     
  3. Diuretic

    Diuretic Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2008
    Messages:
    11,481
    Likes Received:
    915
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So if there's no evidence he was a Muslim then the evidence is being covered up? Is that right? Or might it be that there are factors other than religion involved and in any case he's not a Muslim. That of course would upset those who fervently want this man to be a Muslim and damn the facts.
     
  4. Diuretic

    Diuretic Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2008
    Messages:
    11,481
    Likes Received:
    915
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Now, again, is he a Muslim yet?
     
  5. ChrisL

    ChrisL Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2015
    Messages:
    12,098
    Likes Received:
    3,585
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Maybe . . . . Do you feel it is a far fetched conclusion for people to come to, given what has gone on?

    - - - Updated - - -

    I don't feel that it is an unreasonable conclusion for people to come to at all. If we were to be honest, there are Islamic terrorism happenings all over the world.
     
  6. Diuretic

    Diuretic Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2008
    Messages:
    11,481
    Likes Received:
    915
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I think it's ridiculous. I realise commentators don't have to discipline themselves in their thinking and wild speculation is allowable for those who aren't involved with working on the facts. But it does show that many commentators are quick to allow their prejudices to overrule their common sense.
     
  7. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2009
    Messages:
    12,838
    Likes Received:
    6,852
    Trophy Points:
    113

    What is the difference between your spontaneous denial of a real probability or one suggesting that real probability, all without evidence in this specific case or event?

    You suggest zero probability of a religious connection prior to any credible evidence being released or made available.

    "Ridiculous, lacking discipline, wild speculation, prejudice, lack of common sense." I agree!

    Cheers
    Labour
     
  8. Rickity Plumber

    Rickity Plumber Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2013
    Messages:
    1,122
    Likes Received:
    9
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Wake the hell up . . .

    Do you go through life walking in a hazy stupor?
     
  9. longknife

    longknife New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2012
    Messages:
    6,840
    Likes Received:
    131
    Trophy Points:
    0
  10. ChrisL

    ChrisL Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2015
    Messages:
    12,098
    Likes Received:
    3,585
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Well, I disagree. I don't think it's "wild speculation" at all, considering ALL the terrorism that has been going on, and the fact that hijacking and crashing planes IS actually a terrorist motive operandum. Not ridiculous for people to jump to those kinds of conclusions. That was MY first suspicion when I heard about it, and it STILL has not been completely ruled out, as there were several suspicious FaceBook "tributes" saying that he was a Muslim convert.
     
  11. ChrisL

    ChrisL Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2015
    Messages:
    12,098
    Likes Received:
    3,585
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    That is ALSO a blog. Lol. Let's just go with the fact that we don't know enough yet to rule out ANYTHING. And it is not unfounded, as there most certainly are Facebook tributes to this man. I saw them. They might be just jokes or trolls or whatever, but they do exist.
     
  12. Ctrl

    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2008
    Messages:
    25,745
    Likes Received:
    1,944
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So, if over a period of 14 years I take dumps on your porch, write letters telling you more porch dumps are coming, get caught a few times in the act of taking dumps on your porch, and you wake up tomorrow to find a nice steamy lump of corn mortar on your porch... is your first thought really going to be "gosh, I wonder who took a dump on my porch..."?

    Or are you going to reasonably assume it was likely me?
     
  13. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2013
    Messages:
    22,478
    Likes Received:
    6,008
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So if he is muslim I must wake up ? I noticed you can't actually answer the question, bravo!
     
  14. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2010
    Messages:
    19,874
    Likes Received:
    8,447
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What if the guy turns out to be a Jew? Maybe then we can assemble a coalition of the willing and storm into Dimona to destroy Israel's secret nuclear arsenal. If he is a Mormon, we should invade Utah. We must be proactive in these matters.
     
  15. Rickity Plumber

    Rickity Plumber Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2013
    Messages:
    1,122
    Likes Received:
    9
    Trophy Points:
    0
    okay Einstein, here it is.

    All mooslims need to be profiled as in El Al airlines in order to have an un-terrorized unblemished history.

    How is that Einstein ?
     
  16. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2013
    Messages:
    22,478
    Likes Received:
    6,008
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So they need to do what they already are doing ? :roflol:
     
  17. Alwayssa

    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2012
    Messages:
    32,956
    Likes Received:
    7,587
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It is unreasonable based on two points. First, people ware wanting to blame a group for an individual event and second they do not want to deal with the REAL issues here on why this has happened.

    From the evidence that is relased to the media so far, we know that the copilot caused the crash based on the co pilot had control of the toggle switch and the decent was controlled. What we do not know is why.

    This incident is similar to the Chris Kyle murder trial. You had people trying to convince others that the defendant was a Muslim even though there was no evidence. No one on the far right wanted to talk about mentally ill or PTSD, They wanted to totally ignore it and simply blame a group for dong something that they had no knowledge of nor influence in the actual crime itself. And that is the problem we have with this thread.
     
  18. Alwayssa

    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2012
    Messages:
    32,956
    Likes Received:
    7,587
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The fallacy with your argument is that it is not a real possibility. For it to be real, you have to have some soert of evidnce. This evidence cancome from friends, family, co workers, or complete strangers. His computer and laptop world have to have web sites to extremist Muslim organization, or just simply A Muslim organization.
     
  19. Alwayssa

    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2012
    Messages:
    32,956
    Likes Received:
    7,587
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So, you are going to blame any and all airplance crashes to be done by Muslims?

    If so, then that makes Harrison Ford a Muslim right? Or how about the Taiwanese plane crash into the river earlier this year. Were the pilots Muslim as well?
     
  20. Ctrl

    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2008
    Messages:
    25,745
    Likes Received:
    1,944
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Again... my guess was an infowars anti-banker type.

    I am saying SUSPICION of the usual suspects is not unwarranted, nor bigoted.
     
  21. katsung47

    katsung47 Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2011
    Messages:
    1,124
    Likes Received:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    38
    The Germanwings tragedy was plotted by the same one who created Paris Hebdo attack case - an intimidation at German and French.

    851. Why Malaysia airlines was selected as target (8/23/2014)

    In #848, I said Malaysia was targeted because it keeps a friendship with China while China is a covert enemy of the US. In #845, I talked about German had sensed that E.U. was provoked by the US for a covert war with Russia. German is unwilling to follow the US instruction. It expelled the CIA Chief from the German as a protest.

    Then a Chinese forum offered an information how Malaysia and German were hurt by heavy insurance loss in the two incidents. The insurance company of Malaysia Airline is a Germany.

    1. MH370
    2.. MH17

    The comment said, “German was shot even it was laying on the ground”.
     
  22. Diuretic

    Diuretic Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2008
    Messages:
    11,481
    Likes Received:
    915
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Nothing spontaneous about it, it was deliberative.
     
  23. Diuretic

    Diuretic Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2008
    Messages:
    11,481
    Likes Received:
    915
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Of course - similar fact evidence. There's a huge pool of suspects for this unlawful dumping, but only one has form for it and since that's you then I'm quite okay putting you down as suspect number one.

    None of this takes away from the silliness of those who wanted the pilot to be a Muslim.
     
  24. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2009
    Messages:
    12,838
    Likes Received:
    6,852
    Trophy Points:
    113

    Um, that's what I've been arguing. We have zero credible evidence, of anything. Therefore all things are possible with some having a higher probability than others.

    I've argued that we have no evidence that First Officer Lubitz intentionally crashed the aircraft. We have no evidence that First Officer Lubitz was suffering from debilitating depression.

    Cheers
    Labour
     
  25. Ctrl

    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2008
    Messages:
    25,745
    Likes Received:
    1,944
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Wanted them to be, or suspected they were?

    The only group of people trying every day to smash planes into things are Islamic extremists. When a plane is intentionally smashed into something, Islamic extremists are the first logical assumption. Suspect number 1.
     

Share This Page