I feel broken, devastated, and exhausted.

There are always a few extremists on both sides. Over the past few years we've let their voices dominate. It's time to reverse that, & let the voices of moderation take charge. America is hurting. We can all help by backing off & backing down, to allow this nation a time of healing. Stop finding fault. Help your country heal.

 

Giving people orders regarding what they should do and telling folks to back off and back down is a funny way to invoke healing. lol

 

There now, there

 

Continuing the divisiveness is damaging to our country & our people. For the sake of both, we need to make peace with each other & remember we are ALL Americans. We're NOT enemies. We simply have a difference of opinion on many issues, but that's supposed to be accepted within any democracy. If you value your personal freedoms, &/or democracy itself, you should take a deep breath, release your frustrations, set aside your mistrust, stop expecting everything your way, & allow those coming into power a chance for healing this country. Otherwise, you just become part of the problem. Make a better choice.

 

LMAO...you mean ignorantly ignored by trump turd polishers whining about voter fraud.
That fact is that even people who voted for repubs down ballot voted against trump because they knew he was unfit for the job.
On a more positive note, it has been wonderful not hearing trump’s voice prattling on for the past 10 days.

 

Yep. It's a crying shame that Democrats and their political media marketers lied and propagated four years of daily hatred against our sitting president.

I'm not your enemy. The Democrat Party with it's current platform is the enemy of America. I don't blame voters for being conned by deceptive rhetoric.

 

Do you regard fault finding & laying blame as better? There's a lot of both on this forum. What do you recommend for improvement?

 

You're either forgetting or disregarding the 8 years of daily hatred perpetuated against Obama by Republicans. Trump's four years pales by comparison. How much longer do you recommend this kind of behavior by Americans toward other Americans. Do you care whether it damages us as a nation & as a people? What would it take to convince you it needs to stop? What would it take to make you concerned for preserving the better qualities of our shared heritage?

 

If CNN/MSNBC et. al. had idolized Trump the way they idolized Obama, America would love Trump. Obviously, he wouldn't have been as combative if he had not been attacked by enemies from all sides of the establishment daily.

The hatred of Obama was mostly from the people, the citizenry who didn't like his policies. It was bottom up criticism. The hatred of Trump has come from media and Democrat leaders. The left was infused and indoctrinated effectively by a lack of objectivity and outright lies, coming from the top down.

Most Americans' angst is directed our awful government, not at other Americans. The government is broken. The last thing we need to fix that is the Democrat's "big" government. Most of the power Democrats wish to usurp at the federal level are issues which belong at the local and state level.

Your side wants big nanny government. The right wants local/state government to deal with most issues and for the federal government to leave us alone. That is a difference of political opinion. It does not make Americans bitter enemies, and in fact heated political debates are part of the core of Americans' shared heritage.

 

1) of course we're not enemies. The only time I encounter people that feel that way are on the news and on social media/forums.

1a) those above do not represent the majority.

2) when the extreme left apologizes publicly multiple times for their crap and mainstream dems condem antifa with a vengeance then you can call out those on the right for civility, until then those extreme right characters have every right to tell the left to <Rule 9> off, berate Biden <Mod Edit>

The left burned all those bridges, they need to rebuild, not demand that the right do so.

 

"RESIST" pleading to their opponents to not be resist, to be loyal opposition, the bully who attacked you, took your lunch money, insulted, slandered, harassed you for years asking you to say you love him while the bully still gets to keep your lunch money.

Sorry pal, on planet Reality a double doze of their own medicine is the only thing the libs so richly deserve.... On the other hand, if Biden continues building the Wall, keeps his hands off the energy industry, kick the Mullah's ass, stop wasting money on Paris accord scam, rein in Antifa/BLM fascists... well you got the idea... if Biden/libs want to reconcile, I've just laid out the path for him to succeed. Is he game?

 

Being consumed by politics is exhausting and takes time from what is most important.


Lessons of Life

A philosophy professor stood before his class and had some items in front of him. When class began, wordlessly he picked up a large empty mayonnaise jar and proceeded to fill it with rocks right to the top, rocks about 2" diameter. He then asked the students if the jar was full?

They agreed that it was. So the professor then picked up a box of pebbles and poured them in to the jar. He shook the jar lightly .The pebbles, of course, rolled into the open areas between the rocks. The students laughed. He asked his students again if the jar was full?

They agreed that yes, it was. The professor then picked up a box of sand and poured it into the jar. Of course, the sand filled up everything else. "Now," said the professor, "I want you to recognize that this is your life.

The rocks are the important things –your family, your partner, your health, your children - anything that is so important to you that if it were lost, you would be nearly destroyed. The pebbles are the other things in life that matter, but on a smaller scale. The pebbles represent things like your job, your house, your car. The sand is everything else. The small stuff. If you put the sand or the pebbles into the jar first, there is no room, for the rocks. The same goes for your life. If you spend all your energy and time on the small stuff, material things, you will never have room for the things that are truly most important. Pay attention to the things that are critical in your life. Play with your children. Take your partner out dancing. There will always be time to go to work, clean the house, give a dinner party and fix the disposal." Take care of the rocks first -the things that really matter. Set your priorities. The rest is just pebbles and sand.

 

Executive big government EXPLODED under Trump and the rest of the GOP did nothing to stop him.

 

Trump cut useless regulations and red tape. He did invest in necessary military upgrades like space technology. Covid spending couldn't be helped.

 

The increase in deficit spending happened well before COVID hit. And, sorry, there is still nothing "small government" about Trump. This is why the libertarians can't stand him. Cutting some regulations here and there is meaningless when you are also circumventing Congress's Constitutional powers to pass extra taxes, taking away their power of the purse, etc.

 

1. If Trump had the personal & leadership qualities Obama had, then he would have had the adulation he & you seem to miss.
2. If hatred of Obama was primarily from the people, then he would never had been reelected to a second term. When the people--otherwise know as the "voters"--dislike someone sufficiently, they vote them out of office like we just did with Trump. Obama was & still is, very popular with the people. I disagree that the dislike of Trump is based on lies trickling down from above. Trump is a jerk. His personality is stark, cold, cruel, self-serving to the point of lunacy, & he has no heart. What is there in Trump to like?
3. First, Trump's term of office became the largest federal government in history--right along with the national deficit. So, if big government is your issue, you have no reason to support Trump. You are correct in that there are issues best dealt with at the state level, but there are a growing list of issues, ignored for years by Republicans in Congress, that are best dealt with at the federal level. One of those was & still is, the ongoing, growing pandemic. Trump mistakenly delegated responsibility to the states, but they were incapable of dealing with it, because it was bigger than any of them--bigger than all of them. The federal government should have been in charge from a central headquarters. The federal government should have organized everything & coordinated everything nationwide.
4. I am a liberal Democrat, & yes, I do want the federal government to take charge of things that affect the entire nation, but I'm fine with states dealing with things that affect themselves only. I feel things like civil rights, human rights, voting rights, healthcare, & such, since they affect every American nationwide, should be handled by the federal government. I agree with you that democracies are supposed to have diverse opinions on issues. Political opponents should work constructively to find solutions together on common ground. Our forefathers did that here in the U.S. So should we.

 

I see your "unity" skills are still strong. Spread the love. LOL

 

I understand very much how you feel, and did largely the same thing when Trump was elected.

Take care of yourself first. Good luck to you.

 

Ya... Good luck with that. This is the same group of people who will scream bloody murder about masks as well.

Its not about being rational, but about burning as many systems to the ground as possible.

 

If your list is the price for your acceptance of his Presidency, I doubt he'll go for it. He'd lose my vote if he did.

 

You know whats a great way to stay politically grounded? Don't be a partisan hold your own opinions and realize the Republican and Democratic parties do not exist to change anything they exist to keep thing the way they are if you like the way things are vote for whichever one makes you feel better if you think America has systemic problems that need addressing vote third party or independent and realize most folks like things the way they are. Its hard to be crushed and disappointed when all you expect from elections is partisan hypocrisy. In fact I've never been disappointed once with that expectation.

 

Throughout Trump's Presidency I was eager to see Trump & his Republicans work across the aisle to get things done to help America & Americans. It never happened. Trump is a loner who doesn't work with anyone. He regards everyone as inferior to himself. He's actually stated in interviews that the only person he really trusts is himself. In his campaign he often said, "Only I can do it." That was no joke. He took that conviction into the White House with him. In order to have "unity" you have to be mindful of your opposition, & take their views into consideration. Trump was incapable of doing that. His sycophantic followers in Congress just followed along blindly--especially Mitch McConnell. Yes, I want to reunify the country. Not everyone who voted for Biden was a Democrat. Many were Independents. Some were Lincoln Republicans. But it is encouraging that the majority of voters recognized the superiority of Biden over Trump as a potential President. I am a leftist liberal, but if Biden can reunite our country & make it healthy again without the hatred, division & mistrust, I will gladly compromise my positions on issues to help. But it takes more than me.

 

Oh I see.... So after years of having to endure leftist insults, smear, harassment, "cancels", even violence, your idea of healing and uniting is for us to get behind the leftist Green new deal, no fracking, amnesty/open border, gun-grabbing platform? Dude, are you for real?

 

Okay. Dementia Joe has two brain cells left, is a racist, a hothead, and an establishment elite who has been on the wrong side of policies for 50 years ripping the country apart, so let's all agree that he is a total a loser and sing Kumbaya like good Americans! Easy peasy.

 

"Let's all get along" means "Stop having your own opinion and think like we do." Shrug.