I Get So Pissed Off Here Sometimes

Tokyo or Kyoto. Another dagger in the heart by destroying the revered centers of cultural traditions and art. More discontent among the people.

 

Circumstantial evidence? Looks like I uncovered one of the conspiracy theorists. If you are buying it now, I'm pretty sure you'll be sticking with your team.

 

LOL... I remember during jury selection the judge tried to tell us that circumstantial evidence is as a good as physical evidence. I tried not to scoff too obviously. No I'm not conspiratorial at all. You guys are just understandably trying to stop it from disrupting the conservative agenda, I suppose, and to that end I don't think you guys even care if there was collusion. Sort of like I didn't care if Bill Clinton had an affair or even if he lied about it.

I'll still hate Trump even if Mueller finds nothing... well nothing directly implicating Trump, he's already found quite a bit to indict Trump's minions.

 

Gatewood, delusions of grandeur is a known right wing sickness.

 

Jes tryin' ta be helpful.

 

Because for most liberals, "freedom" for themselves requires the enslavement of others.

 

Well please present your circumstantial evidence. My guess is that it really won't be. And although I wasn't part of the conversation, your position that atomic bombs being dropped on Japan had nothing to do with their surrendering confirmed my suspicions that you are a conspiracy theorist. And yes, I read the FP article you posted, and it was all inference with zero evidence.

 

LOL, riiiight. Well hopefully you weren't a birther, or else you'd be as hypocritical as the president who has a real tendency to criticize others for things he himself is obviously guilty of. Lying Ted, crooked Hillary... I mean who lies more and is more crooked than Trump?

I honestly don't have the time to go into the evidence against Trump right now. We'll hear all about it when the investigation is over I'm sure.

The atomic bomb thing is just obvious once you understand the basic historical and military situation. Really the only evidence that supported their significance in the first place was the speech by the Japanese emperor pointing them out, and Americans readily believe such a "reliable" source because both sides feel better if it were true. The Japanese leadership not even wanting to meet to discuss it, and the fact that the atomic bombs didn't really affect the military situation (Japanese didn't blink after 60 something other cities being devastated), makes it just obvious. You don't need intact cities to bleed America into better peace terms. In fact, ruined cities are great for asymmetrical warfare. Having to deal with Stalin invading in 10 days, one of the most ruthless leaders of all time, piled on top of the horrible situation with America, is another thing entirely.

 

I don't think the Emperor mentioned the Russians.

 

Well yes he did actually, but had it been an honest speech it would have been mostly about them since they would have invaded before America could, and Japan would have been a part of the Soviet empire likely with the Emperor executed. The whole speech is a blatant lie since the emperor and the ruling council obviously didn't care about their people, but only their own survival in the face of defeat. Perhaps you also agree with, "We declared war on America and Britain out of Our sincere desire to secure Japan's self-preservation and the stabilization of East Asia, it being far from Our thought either to infringe upon the sovereignty of other nations or to embark upon territorial aggrandisement."

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Imperial_Rescript_on_Surrender

 

"...had it been an honest speech ..."

You are quite the historian.

 

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