I hope a GOD exists but I am not holding my breath!

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  1. it's just me

    it's just me Well-Known Member

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    You know, I am always amused by people who claim that I and other religious people have "not considered other possibilities", or that we can't consider other possibilities. In reality, we questioned claims like yours and we got past them.
     
  2. AboveAlpha

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    You don't get it.

    Yes you just like anyone who was brought up in a very religious household will ask questions.

    But it is whether a person asks THE RIGHT QUESTIONS....or even if they do whether they ACCEPT THE ANSWERS that is specific to their Genome.

    Look....we can break down the entire debate as far as whether a GOD exists as advertised in the Bible mathematically and the REALITY is that there is absolutely no evidence or proof that supports such a GOD existing or not.

    However there is PROBABILITY.

    And Probability dictates the odds of such a GOD existing at 1 chance in 10^178th.

    Thus an actual mathematical chance exists such a GOD exists.

    But the Probability is low in the extreme such a GOD exists.

    Especially since a Statistical Impossibility exists at 1 chance in 10^150th.

    So.....when a person either asks and finds out the answer as far as the mathematical probability such a GOD exists.....some people will see this calculation and reality for what it really is....a very very small chance in the extreme.

    Then other people will look at the same thing and ignore the math and reality because they are Genetically Disposed to be able to.

    AA
     
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    I would imagine it takes more than 'genetic predisposition'. I suspect there also needs to be a significant payoff for choosing to ignore it. Or in this case, imagined payoff. Which of course is no kind of payoff at all, given the statistical impossibility problem ... but that just shows how deeply in thrall they are to the idea of immortality - the imagined payoff.

    Add all that to indoctrinated fear and you have more than enough for belief. Toss in a community which supports and awards belief, and you're unlikely to ever be able to extricate yourself.
     
  4. AboveAlpha

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    Yes...that is the effect of environment and condition.

    But a person has to be genetically disposed to either be fearful or not.

    Some people will ask questions and find answers and find the reality.

    Some will do the same and ignore the reality.

    And others will never venture to ask questions at all.

    The last are the most dangerous.

    AA
     
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    I know people who were raised never to question authority. It was so thoroughly taught, that they don't even know to question the questioning of authority, if that makes sense. It's quite astounding to witness, and they are effectively puppets for anyone or anything who sees this in them and takes advantage. Bosses, partners, 'friends', even their own kids.

    It's about the most irresponsible of all the 'raise them to be respectful' parenting fails. Truly awful and cruel. And of course, it's done by parents who had it done to them and never questioned, so it's a self-perpetuating disaster.
     
  6. AboveAlpha

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    If you want to get a lethal dose of that just spend time in the Middle East.

    To question authority equals a death sentence.

    To question religion equals worse.

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    Pretty funny coming from the politically correct "Thou shalt not question homosexuality, transgenderism, global warming, climate change, thou shalt not question us, or the worst sin of all, thou shalt not question what we deem to be science" crowd.

    Aren't you the same guy who posted this just the other day?

    Yeah, I AM going question you, and then I'll question your answers, depending on how much time I have.
     
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    You can do that all you want but make sure it is factual not opinion.

    As far as homosexuality, transgender-ism, global warming, climate change, etc....you can question that all you want as well.

    But make sure you discuss the FACTS...not opinion.

    And if it is your opinion make it clear it is.

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    it's possibly our biggest fail as humans. it's entirely vestigial in the west, so I have no idea why some still raise kids this way. it's freaking appalling.
     
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    Leave me out of those first two. I'm thoroughly p#ssed off by the Triggered Snowflakes and their fascist opposition to free speech.

    As for GW and CC, you can say whatever you like against those. I won't agree with you, and will say my piece in response, but that's what free speech looks like. Both sides get airtime.
     
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    It is the intolerance of others who refuse to even look at the science that is the problem.

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    You don't hope a God exists. What you hope is that a god exists who will dance to your tune.
     
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    How stupid. It's more noble to hope that a god exists who likes genocide if things don't go well, sends bears to maul children, likes infanticide as crowd control, tortures us for eternity if we make a little mistake, watches us poop, and spends inordinate amounts of time thinking about our genitals.
     
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    Would you prefer one that didn't?

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    Like the Triggered Snowflakes and their Gender Theory.
     
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    You have made several claims for which you have no facts, like the one about genetic disposition. That is hardly a proven fact.
     
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    Well then how do you explain the thousands of species where homosexual behavior has been observed?

    Are you trying to say all those species of animal life made a CONSCIOUS DECISION to engage in homosexual sex???? LOL!!!

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    Well, that's because you didn't look past this planet. You may need to look further. Try look to the third heavens, or other other part of the universe, you will see a much different world where God the father, Jesus Christ reign, with the Holy Spirit, where has eternal peace and joy and many angels. And much more advanced. This planet and this world has been usurped by the devil, whom is lawless and Godless. That's why so much sufferings. It really is not God's fault. Human made a bad choice.

    You want to feel God's love and His caring, call out His name and believe in him. How can He show you love and caring if you don't believe Him exist? It really is on you when you complain He doesn't care and love you when He extends His hand to you all these time.
     
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    Your obsession with the tall tales of scripture has put you out of touch with reality. That's irresponsible and diversionary.

    Physical, material existence and the ways of dealing with it harbor the potentials for undesirable effects. Things can easily go wrong without the help of any devil.
     
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    Hi there. This wasn't addressed to me, but I'd like to know more!

    When you say we should 'look past this planet', where exactly should we be looking? Can you give me coordinates? And should we restrict our viewing to moonless nights? Are the third heavens hard to locate, even with a really good telescope?

    And can you tell me who made the devil, please? I'm confused about his origins and parentage.

    I'd like to 'feel god's love and caring'. But it seems as though you're asking us to believe before we can believe. Is that right?
     
  23. AboveAlpha

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    Now here is the problem with all you posted......you take great pleasure in posting it and revel in what you believe....but there is absolutely not even the tinniest bit of evidence existing never mind no proof whatsoever that a GOD exists.

    Nothing.

    And by the way....I hold advanced degrees in Cosmology, Astronomy and Particle Physics and I HAVE looked far beyond our world.

    And what have I found?

    I have found that REALITY....is far more spectacular and far more amazing then any claimed and created GOD and RELIGION could ever be.

    AA

    - - - Updated - - -

    LOL!

    OK....you and I both know....LOL!!

    Forget it.

    AA
     
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    I'm amazed at the number of religious fantasy writers on this forum. This one is quite good, for a religious fantasy writer.
     
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    at The Crossroads of the Third Heavens, you can find The Inn of the Seventeenth Heavenly Sneeze.
     

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