"I like Hitler"

That's pretty much what white Jewish European folks thinks of black folk and Arabs.

Back at square one.

 

Not really. I have yet to meet a single white Jewish European person who thinks that. Meanwhile, this is literally NOI scripture.

 

The Talmud also has racist doctrine

 

I'm sure it does, though Jews debate about the Talmud all of the time and few take it literally these days. How does that make the NOI's racism okay again? With the NOI, the racism is at the absolute core. These are supposed to be PROPHETIC revelations (not something that is true about the Talmud, by the way).

 

The Talmud is a higher authority than the Old Testament for WJE.

 

No, it really isn't. And they don't call it the "Old Testament." Funny how you refuse to talk about the NOI now, though.

 

Yes, it really is and icall it the "Old Testament." Funny how you refuse to talk about the WJE racism now though

 

Ppl sure like to cast stones. Ilike to look within when solving problems.

 

Dude, Karaites . . . look them up. There are Jews, accepted by the rest of the Jewish community, that reject the Talmud in it's entirety. But keep running if you want. Also, the Talmud is largely, almost entirely, commentary on the Tanakh. How can it be superior to the Tanakh?

 

Ask them (mainstream) they regard it as a higher or on a par with OT.

The karaites are a minority sect who's beliefs are very similar to the Hebrew Israelites, the real Jews.

 

Okay so I see I'm very, very, very late on weighing in about the Kanye West thing. So I'll just say he lost my respect and willingness to care about him a long time ago and this her pretty much solidified it completely. I really miss early 2000s Kanye when he was dropping "College Dropout" and "Late Registration" on the music charts and the worst problem then was debating which album was better.

 

They call it the Tanakh, not the "OT," and I have many in my family. I encourage you to do the same you just requested that I do. You won't, but you should.

Do the Karaites believe that black people are the real Jews and the rest of the Jews are faking it? (Hint: the answer is no).

 

The WJE believe that the original Jews were white. Whether they truly believe it or are just pretending it is the case is another discussion entirely.

My synopsis is that WJE know the biblical Jews were black but due to their (WJE) massive influence in MSM are pretending that the biblical Jews were white in order to attract the white (the paymaster) audience into supporting/funding the state of Israel. For why would the white (paymaster) audience support Israel if the Jews were black? Think about it, the super powers (USA/UK) would be blowing Israel to smithereens if it was a black ppl, with the full support of its populace.

This is all prophecy btw. When you think about it, the WJE are doing black folk a favour in keeping Israel's name alive.so it's really no need for the WJE, if they understand history, to be so hostile to black folk.

 

Citation?

Cool conspiracy theory you got there.

Come back to me when you can talk about facts and evidence.

 

We can definitely get back to this. As a so called Jewish person (you never know on the internetz) you're pretty reasonable but I've bumped into several "so called" Jewish ppl on forums who are die hard anti black dare isay it, racists. That the chief rabbi in Israel can confirm this attitude in person leaves a real bad taste in my mouth YET, I'm glad you and Ican have open and fair discourse. That is the future.

Citations? As is understood, WJE are over representative in Hollywood. Hollywood, and specifically WJE directors ALWAYS portray Ancient Km.t and Israel as a white civilization.

Conspiracy of white donorship to Israel? That's no conspiracy, look at the funding USA has given and the political assassinations MI5 has orchestrated on behalf of a "white Israel" . It's total corruption, contradiction and hypocrisy the lengths UK has gone in supporting a "white Israel". UK would never behave like that for a "black nation'. It's pure tribalism but it works for me as it keeps Israel's name alive but it's not done in the name (UK) I support.

Prophecy?

It was written that whites will congregate in Israel. Gen 9:27. This is not unexpected. We see this today.

 

Yes, I confess to being a busted up and broken down old, White Army Veteran.

It was at least my experience in the military that race relations were good.

In Basic Training, our platoon was about 50% Black and 50% White with a very demanding Black DI (Drill Instructor). At the end of Basic Training, we all pitched in and bought some very fancy wheels for his car, picked the lock on the trunk of his car, put the shiny new wheels in the trunk and we were gone before he found out.

You're right, I know little about NOI and / or hip hop or what either of them thinks about Hitler. The more I learn about Stalin, Churchill, Eisenhower, Mao etc the better Hitler looks.

I suspect that NOI and hip hop fans claim to be fond of Hitler not because of what her really did but because it's more shocking to most Westerners than praising Mao or Stalin even though Stalin killed far more White people than Hitler is accused of killing.

JFK had this to say about Hitler:

“You can easily understand how that within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived,” Kennedy wrote in his diary in 1945.
https://time.com/4711687/john-f-kennedy-diary-hitler/

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I don't know enough about Alexander the Great to either agree or disagree but I do know that Western civilization lost a lot of information with the burning of the library at Alexandria and destruction of the one in Nineveh, Iraq, so there may very well have been leaders even worse.
I just don't know who was really the most cruel and murderous leader was but I'm pretty sure that I wouldn't want Attila the Hun rampaging through my neighborhood either.

Thanks,

 

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This is precisely how I feel and wish that everyone appreciated the ability to exchange differing opinions even on volatile subjects with civility and respect.

I don't want an echo chamber and debating topics makes me read more doing research.

Finally, we're extremely lucky to have our 1st Amendment so we should use it to the fullest.

Thanks,

 

It's the privilege that PF have given us, so as long as we endeavour to be respectful then Yah willing , we can seek education from eachother.

 

I very much agree with that quote from JFK about Hitler because he was extremely significant in the same way Stalin, Mao, King Leopold II, Saddam, etc were. For ALL the wrong reasons.

 

I think that it's important to remember that propaganda is not just something that the "other side" does.

For example, America had its own WW 2 era propaganda ministry known as the OWI (Office of War Information) which worked closely with Hollywood to brainwash Americans into believing the most outrageous lies about Hitler and the German people.

To this day, MSM and Hollywood still cranks out the same bigoted anti German slander and that's all most Westerners are exposed to since birth.

I try to be open minded and objective while using whatever critical thinking capabilities I have when thinking about the WW 2 era. In addition to living, studying and working in Germany for several years, I knew lots of American WW 2 Veterans.

Based on what I learned from knowing German WW 2 Veterans, German civilian WW 2 survivors and my own research, I simply don't think that Hitler was as malevolent, bigoted and / or cruel as Churchill, Eisenhower, Stalin and some other major Allied figures.

Churchill was more interested in "roasting" German civilians(1) and eliminating Germany as a colonial rival than accepting Hitler's peace offer delivered by Hess (2)

Eisenhower's hatred of the German people(3) drove him to murder almost one million German POWs(4) and Stalin's murderous excesses are legendary.

Hitler had no interest in fighting the Western Allies and had several peace offers rejected. Because Hitler saw the barbarism and deadly misery brought about by Russia's largely Jewish led Bolsheviks (Holodomor etc), he feared its spread to Germany and the rest of Europe.

In spite of his fear of Communist Jews, Hitler had several Jewish friends and even a young Jewish girl who exchanged letters with him(6)

Finally, it is almost impossible to find an honest and objective portrayal of Hitler even though WW 2 ended almost 80 years ago since it is the victors who write the history.

Thanks,





(1) QUOTE: “I do not want suggestions as to how we can disable the economy and the machinery of war, what I want are suggestions as to how we can roast the German refugees on their escape from Breslau."
Winston Churchill

https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/01/28/winston-churchill-the-imperial-monster/


(2) "What the World Rejected: Hitler’s Peace Offers 1933–1940"
https://www.amazon.com/What-World-Rejected-Hitlers-1933-1940-ebook/dp/B00M5K8OEM

EXCERPT "The full text of Hitler’s “Appeal for Peace and Sanity” speech, made before the Reichstag on July 19, 1940, following the fall of France. In that speech, Hitler once again offered unconditional peace to Britain.

This speech was printed in English and dropped by the tens of thousands from German aircraft over Britain. Although nearly half the British cabinet wanted to take up his offer, Churchill’s warmongering put an end to this final offer of peace;"CONTINUED


(3) “God, I hate the Germans...”
— Dwight D. Eisenhower
https://quotefancy.com/quote/796826/Dwight-D-Eisenhower-God-I-hate-the-Germans


(4) “Buried Alive Screaming In The Night: German POW Survivors Describe Eisenhower’s Extermination Camps After WWII Had Ended”
https://wearswar.wordpress.com/2018...ers-extermination-camps-after-wwii-had-ended/

EXCERPTS “This is one of a series of published and planned articles detailing aspects of the Western Allies deliberate intention to murder approximately 1 million disarmed German POWs by means of unnecessary starvation, exposure, and illness.

“The Western Allies deliberately murdered approximately 1 million disarmed German POWs by means of starvation, exposure, and illness. This Allied atrocity was first publicly exposed in 1989 in the book Other Losses by James Bacque. Bacque estimates in Other Losses that the victims undoubtedly number over 790,000, almost certainly over 900,000, and quite likely over a million. The prisoners’ deaths were knowingly caused by army officers who had sufficient resources to keep these prisoners alive. Relief organizations such as the Red Cross that attempted to help prisoners in the American camps were refused permission by the army. “CONTINUED


(5). “5 Jews Hitler Actually Liked”
https://historyofyesterday.com/5-jews-hitler-actually-liked-c702217e1aa5

EXCERPT “Surprisingly, during this time in his life, Hitler also had extremely good relationships with Jewish people. At his house in Vienna, almost all of his friends were Jewish, with Josef Neumann being the closest.

And when Hitler took over Germany, he spared some of his old Jewish friends, kept some in his party, and even formed new friendships.” CONTINUED


(6) "Remarkable tale of Hitler's young Jewish friend"
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46192941

 

Yeaaaah, I'm gonna have to hard disagree on a lot of that. Just because Churchill and our presidents in WW2 did some messed up stuff of their own doesn't suddenly negate anything Hitler did, especially as it relates to war crimes because having a couple of Jewish friends doesn't suddenly absolve you of the Holocaust and destroying half of Europe. That's not how it works. Even worse when you systematically kill off most minorities in Europe.

 

I'm already having a civil, respectful and informative discussion about the Holocaust with 2 other Posters on two other threads so I will start by saying that I 'm not alone in feeling that Hitler and Germany were not responsible for WW 2 nor is there any evidence that he ordered the destruction of Europe's Jews(*).

The Poles had been persecuting and killing ethnic Germans for years with increasing severity while Hitler appealed to the League of Nations dozens of times with no results.(1)
It was only until the Danzig Massacre that Germany was forced to invade to stop more German bloodshed.
Oddly enough, there was no moral outrage or declarations of war when the Soviets invaded the Eastern part of Poland only two weeks later.

Later, Hitler sent Hess with a peace offer to Churchill(2) that included German withdrawal from all conquered Western territories in an exchange for a "well wishing neutrality" so that Germany could fight the Communists who were armed and ready to attack Germany, France, the Netherlands, Britain and more.(3)

As I mentioned earlier, it is important to acknowledge that most Westerners have been exposed to just one side of the "Evil German & demonic Hitler" narrative all our lives and earlier frauds like the "human skin lampshade", "human fat soap", shrunken head, homicidal Vaporizer(4) and "human skin pocketbook" all prove a deliberate and long running intent to deceive.
I try to stay open minded and objective and hope you will too.

Thanks,



(*) “To the present day a written order by Hitler regarding the destruction of the European Jewish community has not been found, and, in all probability, this order was never given.”

- Walter Laqueur, Was niemand wissen wollte: Die Unterdruckung der Nachrichten uber Hitlers Endlösung (What Nobody Wanted to Know: The Suppression of News About Hitler’s “Final Solution”), (Berlin-Vienna, 1981), p.190


(1) "The 1939 Danzig Massacres of ethnic Germans which caused Hitler to invade Poland"
http://fr.soc.histoire.narkive.com/...-germans-which-caused-hitler-to-invade-poland

The 1939 Danzig Massacres

EXCERPT "In the months leading up to the German invasion the Polish Army and independent Bolshevik units had been slaughtering German nationals in the Danzig corridor. Mass killings of thousands of civilian ethnic Germans (Volksdeutsche) by both civilian and Russian NDVK Jews, who were confident that Poland would quickly defeat Germany. Many apparently expected to take possession of German farms and businesses. An estimated 58,000 German civilians lost their lives in the massacres carried out prior to the 1939 invasion.

Poles had been merrily slaughtering anything or anybody German since at least as early as April 1939, with smaller incidents stretching back to the close of WW I -- you haven't been told that by the Mass Media, or the fact that these atrocities were one of the main causes for the German invasion of Poland.

Germany had protesting in writing to the League of Nations literally dozens of times with no results."CONTINUED


(2) "Nazis ‘offered to leave western Europe in exchange for free hand to attack USSR"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/...in-exchange-for-free-hand-to-attack-USSR.html


(3) "Exposing Stalin’s Plan to Conquer Europe:…"
https://www.counter-currents.com/201...onquer-europe/


(4) "Auschwitz: Myths and Facts"
http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml

EXCERPT "At the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief US prosecutor Robert Jackson charged that the Germans had used a "newly invented" device to instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way that there was no trace left of them." [8] No reputable historian now accepts either of these fanciful tales."CONTINUED

 

Please don't tell me you're a Holocaust denier, bro, because that's a really, really bad look. There's tons and tons of evidence that he did order it, he literally wrote "Mein Kampf" expressing all of those feelings.

Sorry bro but there's a big reason for why we only think of Hitler as that evil demonic guy, and it ain't propaganda related and there's not much that you can say that'll convince most people otherwise. One good history lesson will tell you that.

 

It would have taken you less than two minutes to google "Yitzhak Yosef". The Sephardi chief rabbi of Israel, born in Israel, is the son of an Iraqi Jew. Not white European whatever by any sane standard. But you do you, so I expect more whining about those damn racist white European Jews.

 

read.
Never said he was white.
Now you mention it though, he looks pretty white to me. His dad was even whiter!
Being born in a specific country does not denote your skin tone btw. Poor argument.