I grew up like this... my friends from different races were not different at all. Literally skin colour religion was nothing to me. I just saw the person infront of me, my friend. The fact that they were "different" to me didn't even register, I saw the person and not their category. It was pure it was good. Then the internet, sjw influences and other nonsense, trying to spead guilt, a divide, pointing out people's races as if it makes them special. I don't buy it. It is part of what is fueling racism. What is wrong with not seeing colour and just viewing people as people??? Why is everyone hell bent on making people's race an issue and categorizing a person due to the amount of melonin in their skin???
Apparently you have not been treated differently because of the color of your skin and gotten pissed about it. Freeman was saying I treat people as individuals unlike racists who treat people according to their skin color.
Well that's not actually true. As I got a little older my skin colour was apparantly an issue for some. Sadily these individuals had become brainwashed by society and the media. He's saying just treat everyone as individuals and people should stop making race an issue. Your own race and other people's race does not matter. As long as people divide themselves by skin tone and make a big deal out of it, it will keep the racism alive. Race is an outdated idea that needs to be forgotten.
Racists are brainwashed by society and the media? What happened to self restraint and personal responsibility? Individuals who feel they are treated unfairly because they are members of a group or race and not being treated as an ''individual'' have a duty to speak up about it if they want things to change, don't you think?
Yes of course racists need to be flagged up and confrontited. It's not acceptable. But the sooner people stop caring about race the better. I don't care if you're black, white, purple, blue, yellow or whatever. You're all the same to me. I don't buy any of this tribal race bullshit. I don't define and group people based on skin shades. The idea of different races is moronic. One race = human race Why not just start seeing individuals and encourage others to do so??? It's stupid to define people by skin pigment regardless if it's negative or positive.
Let me explain (I have more time). Man has many inherent negative attributes that we will never be rid of like dishonesty, lust, jealousy, arrogance, cruelty, greed, laziness, anger, apathy...I could go on but one of them is racism. How do we suppress the other human negative attributes? Through laws when they impact the rights of others and through social mores and strictures. We may never be rid of dishonesty or laziness but not to call it out lets it grow and fester.
But does it really go against human nature or is it a cop out??? I think we are all born innoccent and in this case to divide fellow human by skin colour is somthing that's taught to children by society. Those teaching can be in both in a positive and negative way, it dosen't matter, the results are the same. I think it's our sticking point.
Your ideas seem idealistic and superficial. Parents have been trying to rid these inherent negative attitudes from their children for millenniums and how has that worked out? Not good because they come from some basic urges like sex, self preservation, status seeking, ego protection. Another basic urge is to categorize. It is shorthand in the brain; snake=bad. We naturally look for patterns and categorize and like other urges sometimes the urge is corrupted.
Well it's never actually happened, I don't think their was anytime in recorded history nobody cared about race. It's always been taught people's races matter. I think it's the only way forward. So you think racism is ingrained basic human nature???
That’s it right there. You’ve got to be taught. You've got to be taught To hate And fear You've got to be taught From year To year Its got to Be drummed in your dear little ear You've got to Be carefully Taught You've got to be taught To be Afraid Of people Who's eyes are oddly made And people who's skin is a different shade You've got to Be carefuly Taught You've got to be taught Before it's too late Before you are six Or seven Or eight To hate all the people Your relatives hate You've got to Be carefully taught You've got to Be carefully taught
‘’I don't think their was anytime in recorded history nobody cared about race’’ ought to tell you something. ‘’Ingrained’’ is a strong word, more a potential. People can potentially be greedy, bigoted, jealous, etc. according to their life experiences and nature. We may be able to wipe out bigotry in one place only to have it pop up in another. Expunging it from the human condition at this point in evolution would be impossible.
If you need a law to suppress a human motivation, I submit that it will never go away. Some of the attributes you call out are in fact survival mechanisms. They will never go away either.
You are talking about racism as if it's human nature and a survival mechanism. If it was imprinted into our DNA it's part of being human. So that would lead me to believe racism is acceptable. If it's a basic human urge it cannot be viewed as good or bad. It just is.... But personally I don't believe it is human nature, it's learned. Simply humans copying other humans. If people forget about race entirety, there will be nothing to pass on. Race won't matter when people act in a way it doesn't matter and future generations will follow suit.
Perhaps your knowledge of history is lacking! The Ancient Egyptians were multiracial and their Pharaohs ranged from Nubian to Caucasian and everything in between. There are modern equivalents of multiracial societies such as the Seychelles. Racism is passed down from parents to children in much the same way that religion is passed down. That does not mean that every child is destined to grow up to be a racist just because they had racist parents. Fortunately the Millennial generation is the LEAST racist in history. They see the individual as a person and make no judgments based upon skin color. Yes, there are racist societies but they don't do well when it comes to human rights.
Oh right... I always thought Ancient Egiptions dabbled in a bit of slavery. Anyways thank you for backing me up and providing examples that racism is a learned behaviour. In a society that doesn't recognise race and ignores it, treats people as individuals is a society where racism doesn't exist. Which brings us back to what morgan said and my original point.
Yes, apparently you did not read my next response it went something like ''because they come from some basic urges like sex, self preservation, status seeking, ego protection. Another basic urge is to categorize. It is shorthand in the brain; snake=bad. We naturally look for patterns and categorize and like other urges sometimes the urge is corrupted.'' The opinion that it is solely taught behavior is just that, opinion.
Complete and utter NONSENSE with ZERO credible substantiation! No one is BORN a racist bigot just as no one is born a Catholic or a Hindu.
More drama and opinion without any credible substantiation of that opinion. And I see you have still not improved your reading comprehension. Where did I say people are BORN racist?
They did but many cultures in the ancient world also dabbled in slavery. Slavery was not race-based in Ancient Egypt and their economy was not based on slave labor. According to Egyptologists slaves only made up about 10% of the population. I do agree that there are ancient cultures where racism did not exist or what we call race (physical differences) was not considered to be socially important. Ancient Egypt was one of those places. That's not to say that they weren't ethnocentric. They saw Egypt as the superior civilization but they did not see skin color as socially important. They also took slaves from all neighboring regions including the Northern Sudan (Nubia), Western Asia (The Levant) and Southern Europe (Greece and the Aegean Islands). They did recognize differences as is evident in some of their murals such as this one from the Tomb of Seti I. Here is an excerpt from a book on racial types in Ancient Egypt: The Racial and Ethnic Identity of the Egyptians There are a number of different ways in which we can define the ancient Egyptians themselves as a distinct racial and ethnic group, but the question of their roots and their sense of their own identity has provoked considerable debate. Linguistically, they belonged to the Afro-Asiatic (Hamito-Semitic) family, but this is simply another way of saying that, as their geographical position implies, their language had some similarities to contemporary languages both in parts of Africa and in the Near East. Anthropological studies suggest that the predynastic population included a mixture of racial types (negroid, Mediterranean, and European), but it is the question of the skeletal evidence at the beginning of the pharaonic period that has proved to be most controversial over the years. Whereas the anthropological evidence from this date was once interpreted, by Bryan Emery and others, as the rapid conquest of Egypt by people from the east whose remains were racially distinct from the indigenous Egyptians, it is now argued by some scholars that there may have been a much slower period of demographic change, probably involving the gradual infiltration of a different physical type from Syria-Palestine, via the eastern Delta. The iconography of the Egyptians’ depictions of foreigners suggests that for much of their history they saw themselves as midway between the black Africans and the paler Asiatics. It is also clear, however, that neither Nubian nor Syro-Palestinian origins were regarded as particularly disadvantageous factors in terms of individuals’ status or career prospects, particularly in the cosmopolitan climate of the New Kingdom, when Asiatic religious cults and technological developments were particularly widely accepted. Thus the demonstrably negroid features of the high official Maiherpri did not prevent him from attaining the special privilege of a burial in the Valley of the Kings at about the time of Thutmose 111 (1479-1425 bc). In the same way, a man called Aper-el, whose name indicates his Near Eastern roots, rose to the rank of vizier (the highest civil office below that of the king himself) in the late 18th Dynasty. Source: The Oxford History of Ancient Egypt p. 309 Other scholars such as Shomarka Keita rather than seeing different racial types in Egypt believe that the ancient Egyptians had biological and cultural connections to their neighbors with a strong affinity to populations in the South, in the Sudan and Horn of Africa in Dynastic times (Early Dynastic to New Kingdom period). Question: Were the Ancient Egyptians predominately dark-skinned throughout the Dynastic period and were they predominately African biologically (a pictorial reference to modern populations to illustrate what the majority looked like would be helpful)? Keita: No one can say exactly what colour they were, but one might reasonably say that the typical Upper Egyptian to Nubian color would have been the modal colour in most of the country. Question: What is your basis for stating that the Ancient Egyptian statuary is "Somali-like" in appearance? Keita: Best way to think of this is in terms of parallelism or microconvergent evolution. Somali males are predominantly of E group lineages; African in origin. Look for yourself at the Egyptian statuary for the architecture of faces if you trust the statuary, and look at Greek or Roman statuary. Go over the faces point by point, of course there is variability, but look for a distillation. Look at faces of Oromo, a range of Nilotic folk etc, and you might be able to see what I mean. Frank Snowden, a classical scholar, wrote the book Before Color Prejudice which documents the views of the Greek and Romans of Blacks in the ancient world. Racism was not prevalent in Greco-Roman society or other ancient cultures although some racist views did develop. Some scholars made racist comments but generally skin color was not seen as socially important. There was no racial caste system and civilizations traded with and got a long with cultures with people who looked different from them. Of course there were wars but they were political and had nothing to do with race. I personally believe that racism is not a natural instinct. This is a learned behavior that can develop in a culture and societies can choose to be racist or not be racist as can individuals.
I should think fear/hatred of the different is a survival trait. It would be ingrained in our DNA and not a learned trait. Tolerance, on the other hand, would be a learned trait. Most racially prejudiced people are prejudiced against people they don't know personally. "The Black guys I work with are OK, But the rest just see to want to take advantage of our welfare system." For example.
Racism is a choice, any way you look at it. There is no reason to believe that differences in skin color or other superficial characteristics had anything to do with human survival instincts given that early human populations interacted with people who looked just like them and their enemies were rival tribes. This would be like saying it is natural to feel fear and hatred toward someone with a different hair color. Racism is a cultural and not biological phenomenon. People can choose not to be racist. 100 years ago racism was normal. Today racism is considered socially unacceptable. Society is less racist because today we promote and value equality.
What happened was a black man became president. The final glass ceiling was shattered. A racist nation would never have even considered such a thing. Because racism isn't at all influential in our society any more that means things like the higher drop out rate among black people isn't because of white Supremacy. Meaning there is some other problem. The election of Barack Obama is why we see all of this.
Moving the GOALPOSTS again? You likened racism to natural urges that we are born with. You haven't provided SQUAT in the form of substantiation for that load of bovine excrement. Which seems to be SOP for your posts.
Your lack of reading comprehension is not my problem, Come back when you have an intelligent critique of what I wrote.
