I suspect this is where Trump/Russia collusion will be found in the end

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    What are you talking about?
    What part of Federal Elections Campaign Act-do you not understand?
     
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    Wtf

    I got a fact for you.

    Hillary lost because shes a lying scumbag who puts her own personal convenience ahead of American national security.
     
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    OH BROTHER! *headslap*!

    Price is an appointed member of Trump's administration so he *must* be involved in money laundering!

    Do this. Take *all* of your whiskey into the kitchen. Open *all* the bottles. One by one, pour the contents of each bottle down the drain.
    Wait 48 hours before posting anything else.
     
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    Not one sentence of your massive cut and paste even hints at fact showing ANY collusion between President Trump and the Russians/Putin. If you claim otherwise, quote it. It attacks Bannon, but ZERO about President Trump.

    Podesta criminally was hiding stock he owned in a Russian bank, criminally not reporting it. I suppose I should do as you try and just replace "Podesta" with "Hillary Clinton," and then declare there is proof of Clinton criminally involved with Russian banks.
     
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    This article is over a year old. It was just one more ALLEGATION that has no evidence backing it up.

    You are one of the most deluded conspiracy theorists I've had the displeasure of meeting on the forums.

    It's cloudy here today. Is that part of Trump's conspiracy to ruin America?
     
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    Lol! It's obvious you left your reading comprehension skills back at school with you.
     
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    What difference does it make if the article is a year old or not--It is against the election laws to take donations or accept help in a United States Election from foreign countries!!1
    I will make a correction that the middle man for trump money & now his Commerence Secretary Wilber Ross is who I was talking about, not Tom Price-So, I guess I owe you a bottle of whiskey on that one----
    I am not a conspiracy theorists, You can argue your case, because the investigations are not over with yet, However,there is enough evidence going back decades for all to see that trump is as corrupt as the day is long, that he will stop at nothing to win, that he is more interested in his ego than doing anything for the American people---
    Your insults are actually pretty funny, usually happens when you can't defend this "fake" POTUS----
     
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    The difference is that over the last year the allegations in the article have been disproven! Something your fevered mind can't quite seem to grasp!

    The allegations about Ross are six moths old - and were saying that since he was an investor in a bank that *maybe* did money laundering that *he* is guilty of money laurndering! It's the same kind of nonsense *YOU* try to do. That's like saying that if I own stock in Ace Printing and Ace Printing is convicted of counterfeiting money that *I* am guilty of counterfeiting money!

    When you argue that people knowing someone you don't like are guilty of a crime then it *IS* a conspiracy theory and you *are* a conspiracy theorist!

    Trump has been under so much scrutiny over the past decade, including by the IRS, that it is highly doubtful he's gotten away with anything. Allegations are *NOT* evidence of anything and there has been nothing in the media for a decade but allegations! Allegations don't mean someone is corrupt especially since most of them are from people jealous of Trump's success.
     
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    You are just too funny-that is trying to come up with defense for the corruption---
    I just bet if you were to go goggle trump & money laundering-you will find links to trump being fined for just that--Not allegations--he was fined, $10 million in fines comes to mind,mmm---or,would you like me to get the links? And who cares if they are over a year old, they would support my claim that trump's corruption goes back decades----just let me know---
    These are not allegations about Ross-he was the middle man for handing trump the Russian millionaire's money for the mansion,that would be in cash mind you,mmm,wonder if trump listed that on his income taxes---
    Then we can go as recently as January of 2017,where trump settled for $25 million for the trump university rip off scam----care to argue that?
    Jealous of trump's success---Nope,wrong again-Who would be jealous of someone getting rich by screwing other people ?
     
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    No, I never said that. I said it was not illegal for a foreigner (person or entity) to help a candidate or party in an election. That would include "collusion." A foreigner cannot contribute or donate funds/money in any way, shape or form. He can provide services (work) though their is dome restrictions. He of course cannot do anything illegal like stealing computerized information.
     
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    You are just too funny --- I did just that and found noting of the sort.

    In fact, I had to go 6 pages before I found something from later than this year; later than that, I found nothing that cites Trump being fined for money laundering.

    Well, there's this, but as usual, it's a leftist w/o citations:
    https://www.change.org/p/pga-please...onship-with-the-trump-organization/u/11433112

    "Money laundering" must be the newest line of smear on Trump, now that all the others have failed.
     
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    go here: http://www.newsweek.com/trump-and-money-laundering-key-questions-ask-586770

    I can find *NOTHING* on the internet about Trump or Ross *ever* being charged or fined for money laundering. As the article covers, Trump is most likely a target for the Feds to watch making it highly unlikely he has done anything and Ross actually redirected the Cyprus bank away from financing from Russia instead of toward it!

    Again, I'm not sure what you think money laundering actually is! Money laundering involves giving someone dirty money and getting clean money back. Investments, like in a mansion, do not provide any method to get clean money back. The *bank* may have laundered money, taking dirty money from a Russian and handing back money to give to Trump but that only makes the *bank* criminally liable, not Trump or Ross!

    Settling lawsuits to minimize costs is a common practice. It in no way is an admission of guilt. Nor is it a money laundering scheme either!

    Again, you *are* a conspiracy monger - basing your allegations on people knowing people with absolutely not a shred of evidence of wrong-doing except the fact that people know people.

    And it *is* pretty obvious that jealousy is driving you. Jealousy is a negative emotion and can drive people to all kinds of insanity.
     
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    Yeah, I suspect we'll see this 24/7 on MSNBC and CNN in the coming weeks!
     
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    And once this falls through, we'll hear about how he once fed his dog generic-dry instead of premium-wet food.
     
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    We are getting used to your daily conspiracy meltdowns. Word of advice, go up a few floors. It's not quite high enough. high.png
     
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    http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/22/politics/trump-taj-mahal/index.html
    No, not all others have failed--Do you know something on the investigations that the rest of us don't?
    Interesting because I typed in" trump's money laundering" & wa-la first page---Yup $10 million for that one--
    Also interesting is that your defending trump for settling on the "fake" University---Did you not hear trump on the campaign trail-" I won't settle on the trump university cases,to settle means your weak" or something to that effect--Now your defending him saying it happens all the time ( that may be so)--EXCEPT for the fact that that is not what trump said to get you to vote for him---
     
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    As expected: you failed to discern the difference here.
    The casino being fined for breaking money laundering rules is not the same as Trump being fined for actually laundering money.
    To be fair you may have failed to discern the difference because you do not understand there is a difference.
    Money laundering, you see, is a crime - usually, federal crime, and usually a felony. Your citation denotes a civil penalty.

    But hey! Keep slinging that poo! Maybe someday something will stick!
     
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    If it walks like a duck-quacks like a duck-It's a duck---trump is as corrupt as the day is long---
    Perhaps if they were to have put trump in jail instead of fining him we wouldn't even be arguing---
    But, when a person comes in, gives large amount of cash- gets chips & then doesn't cash in the chips =money laundering--or an extremely dumb individual---quack-quack-quack----
    When a person can't even keep a casino open,what does that tell you---I know,you are going to say, it was losing money,trump doesn't like to lose money---Yeah, right----trump set up a location for his Russian & other foreign pals to launder money & then trump gets his cash percentage ( tax free) & when the Feds caught sight of what was happening, trump got out & kicked everyone else under the bus--STELLAR GUY your defending---
     
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    I see you understand your claim about Trump being fined for money laundering is hooey. Good for you!
     
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    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...trump-linked-to-russian-money-laundering-scam
    Don't you find it just a little coincidental that all these money laundering schemes have one person in common------trump-----
    Hey,trump could end "all" of our questions-----he could end it today---he could release his taxes, he could end the investigations by encouraging all involved to give any information freely-but "NO, trump has to create chaos,call everyone a liar, lawyer up & everyone around him lawyer up,even his lawyer has gotten a lawyer---Hey, trump,what are you hiding?
     
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    Where did you get that idea? He is guilty as sin----
    We should call trump---- The evil Donald Duck---quack-quack-quack----
     
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    Simple: You did not explain how the rules violation the casino was fined for is Trump being fined for money laundering.
    You cannot explain it, because you know its not.
    This, you understand your claim is hooey.
     
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