I want to create a large private community that requires gun ownership for residency.

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Texan, Oct 10, 2018.

  1. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    If an individual has already forcefully entered the residence of another, why should they be given the benefit of the doubt? Why should they not automatically be considered a serious, significant, and even imminent threat to life and/or limb?

    But not in a speed-reading fashion. Deciphering the intentions of a person based on physical cues takes a significant amount of time, and the person at risk could be dead before getting through the first page if they spend more time worrying about the well being of the intruder than they do their own.
     
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    Half these guys will put a bullet into the developmentally disabled kid that wandered into the wrong house. They have no training in threat identification....only shoot at will
     
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    Such as law enforcement officers who will empty entire magazines into an individual holding a cellular phone?
     
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    This just in.....only people who are currently alive are at risk of a gun death
     
  5. Texan

    Texan Well-Known Member

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    If your house is dark and you don't know if the intruder is alone or unarmed, do you wait until he has a chance to kill you first or do you shoot him first after you make sure that it is not a family member?

    If I can see him and that he is unarmed and alone, I would give him a chance to surrender. Until I know this for sure, he's a target. Don't break into people's homes.
     
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    dave8383 Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    In a dark house:

    Let me put it this way. I'm not killing someone just for breaking into my house. I'm using deadly force almost the same way I would, or wouldn't, under any other condition.
     
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  7. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just means the crime will more often be gun crime and fatalities will result when the crime does happen.
     
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  8. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think the gun village should be called Utopia.
     
  9. perdidochas

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    A developmentally disabled kid can be a danger (my dad worked in a state mental hospital, and encountered many dangerous developmentally disabled people--thats why they were in the state mental hospital--they were a danger to self and others). That, and anybody that breaks a window or breaks down a door is a danger to me, developmentally disabled or not.
     
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    My sons when they come into the house late at night and hear me, do the same thing they do for the dog. They talk to us so that we (me and the dog) know who they are and aren't a threat. I pretty much agree with you 100%.
     
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    Yep take him out. Kill kill kill. weapons free
     
  12. Texan

    Texan Well-Known Member

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    99% of the criminals will skip the community in favor of softer targets, or am I missing a rash of gun store and gun show robberies?
     
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    If somebody is endangering my life or other people's lives, that's what needs to be done. I feel my wife's life is worth way more than any person that is trying to harm her.
     
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    I hear ya. That grandmother with alzheimers that wandered into your house needs to get a mozambique drill.
     
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    Not really. It means the crime will most often be done after observation--aka no criminal will attempt to break into occupied houses, etc. The crimes will be more likely to be non-violent.
     
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    Well, technically speaking, that's not a case of developmentally disabled. That, and if a grandmother with alzheimer's breaks down my door, I think I'm in danger. It's impossible to accidentally wander into my house.

    Nice deflection, I guess it's because you don't love your wife.
     
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    Hey I said shoot. She could be packing major heat under that house coat
     
  18. Nonnie

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    But burglars do break in and get shot, obviously armed householders are not a deterrent. Also, some are daft enough to try and rob gun shops. You would think that they would have the brains to at least know that it's s dead cert a gun shop clerk is gonna be armed.
     
  19. Texan

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    More often than not, they move on to a softer target. Post up a "Proud to be gun free" sign in your yard. You'll be one of a very few to do so. Why?

    If someone has to bypass a security gate to get inside of "Peaceful Society" and are then guaranteed to face an armed homeowner surrounded by like minded neighbors with guns, they will move on.

    My neighborhood has about 40 houses and we use the Nextdoor app to communicate. We post pictures of suspicious vehicles and post notices of crimes or teenagers speeding, doing vandalism. We even caught (provided evidence to the police) a guy who kicked in the door of a home and stole a gun while the homeowner was at work. Crime is rare in my neighborhood because we are proactive about it. The home burglary has been the only break in in 15 years here.

    Of the 10 houses on my street, I know of at least 8 people who carry daily. One is a cop. We have annual Independence Day celebrations to get to know each other. We have been kicking the idea around of putting a gate up at the only entrance to our neighborhood.
     
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    On the crime statistics web site, I put my postcode (aka Zip Code) in. It reports 4 crime incidents to date within a 1 mile radius of where I live. There was 1 crime next door to me, a lawn mower was stolen out of a garage. So we wouldn't warrant having all 14 houses in the village with a gun and security guard.
     
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    That's great. If you don't want to own a gun, I wouldn't dream of demanding you do, but I would rather have someone else as a neighbor.(all other things being equal) What I am talking about is private property rights and freedom of association. As long as I don't discriminate based on race, color, sex, etc...... I am discriminating on background check and ability to deter crime.
     
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    I have a gun but just currently go clay pigeon shooting.
     
  23. Texan

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    In my hypothetical community, I would only sell land to people licensed to carry a concealed gun or proof that they are currently background checked. (AD military, police, judges, etc....) And it would only take one person in the household to meet this requirement. As common as LTCs are, it's not a very high bar. There are about 1.3 million already in Texas. Getting an LTC in Texas costs about $250 at most.(for 5 years) There are discounts for veterans, military, judges, and the indigent. My renewals are $25 dollars and become lifetime after the 3rd renewal. I am soon due for my 2nd renewal.
     
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    When that person dies, what about his family that lives there?
     
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    I can’t help that and I can’t see putting restrictions on people’s private property. I’m hoping that I’ll be long gone if that becomes too much of a problem.
     

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