ICE Director Supports Allowing Victims of Criminal Aliens to Sue Sanctuary City Officials

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  1. Grokmaster

    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is a great idea in defense of the ACTUAL American people, not the illegal interlopers/criminals.
     
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    Hyperbolic nonsense! Real drivel.

    The Constitution will not be revoked just because sanctuary quislings will no longer be able to ignore or work counter to federal immigration law. Hopefully we'll stop seeing news stories about illegal alien criminals who murder and rape after being deported from this country a number of times.

    Boo friggin' hoo
    ....won't that be tragic.
     
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    There is nothing in the Constitution that prevents you from having to show your papers and the law in question very much requires state and local governments to "assist" ICE whenever ":requested".
     
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    Nobody cared about what the government did in the name of the war in terror and people are just now finding out how foolish that has been in terms of the freedom lost. This will be no different.
     
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    If they want their block grants then..........."assist".
     
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    Yeah. Holding idiot mayors accountable for harboring illegal alien criminals costs us Freedom.
    What freedom has the war against islamist terror cost you? Drama queen much?
     
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    Actually the will #Resist and win in Court in front of cherry-picked liberal judges because as much as the GOP likes to pretend they are for comprehensive immigration reform, they are currently being held hostage by the Tea Party remnants who will drive many evangelicals into the DNC hands over this issue.
     
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    I suggest you check the Bill of Rights, if you never have, which it sounds is the case.

    Stopping people randomly and demanding ID is prohibited by the First Amendment. Get a clue.
    Police have the right to demand identification when it is in the course of proper and legal dealings with citizens that would occur anyway.
     
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    What do you think stop and frisk is? I am not the one who needs to check my Bill of Rights. You are so blinded that you do not even see that you have made to contradictory statements. If the police can demand your papers they can demand your papers because they wouldn't be dealing with you otherwise.
     
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    The Bill of Rights refers to US CITIZENS, which illegals are not.

    You can be stopped and checked of police have reasonable suspicion of a crime, and BEING HERE ILLEGALLY, IS JUST SUCH A CRIME.
     
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    The point is there must be reasonable suspicion of a crime in order for police to ask for identification. Can sanctuary cities simply ignore
    immigration law and continue to shield blatant violators of federal immigration law? Not any more.
     
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    Sorry but if a city knowingly harbors illegal immigrants, and those immigrants harm someone, the officials should be sued. They were negligient in their duty to protect American civilians.
     
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    Amen! I can see the value in making sure illegals can't be afraid to go to police if they are being threatened by other illegals
    but sanctuary officials (like in San Francisco) have been harboring known alien criminals that SHOULD be turned over to ICE agents.

    I only hope families like the Steinles and Balognas can sue the SF Board of Supervisors and Sheriffs Department's ass off!
     
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    Law Enforcement letting someone go that has another agency's hold on the person for a crime would likely rise to the high level of negligence if the subject was released and killed someone.
     
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    Without question. These friggin' idiot mayors need to be prosecuted for their willful negligence...
     
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    If they can put in a law like HIPAA, which makes anyone trying to provide guidance to people with medical problems liable to lawsuit if they can't prove they obtained assent to share medical information (and sometimes the proof can go missing from a large paper file), I see no reason why this cannot also be done.
     
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    The No Sanctuary for Criminal Aliens Act and Kate's Law passed the House. I think it will pass the Senate too. There are 10 Democrat Senators in states that voted for Trump. Half or more will vote for both lest the Trump voters boot then out next November for voting against one of Trumps primary promises on Immigration.
     
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