ICE to hire contractor to transport 225,000 migrants to shelters across the US

Because there had been a stay until last week, now we can start but doesn't do much good when they are coming in faster than we can deport them. But glad you are now on board with immediate deportation for so-called asylum seekers who do not enter legally.

 

What are you talking about? I didn't say anything to indicate I believe DHS only works in Texas. Please explain your comment.

 

Because this is how it has been going for decades. And nobody called it a crisis before.

 

Obama did so...

 

fair enough if he did. Can you source it?

 

There are about 4.4 million people working in the Executive Branch. Do you think they are all Republicans? Do you think everything they do is supervised by the President? Do you think its impossible for rogue elements to work within an administration contrary to its agenda?

The correct answers are no, no, and no. In fact we've seen statements from various TDS'ers within the Trump administration openly admitting they will do anything they can to disrupt the White House's efforts.

The Trump administration has been fighting battles in the courts in order to have illegals removed. Various leftists throughout the country fight to keep them in the US and to distribute them around to key areas. Now put your thinking cap on and tell me who's really behind the distribution of illegals.

 

Twice I believe. First in 2012 but then again in 2014.

In a nationally televised address from the White House, the president warned about an "actual humanitarian crisis on the border" prompted by a surge of migrants from Central America, and urged Congress to take action on his immigration agenda.

The year was 2014, and the president was Barack Obama.

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/09/683623555/president-obama-also-faced-a-crisis-at-the-southern-border

 

Now on board? huh.

 

Policies are from the head of the staff.
Most are appointed by tRUMP or his staff and they will set the policies.
All tRUMP has to do is bus them back to Mexico. Obama did it, why doesn't tRUMP?

The tRUMP admin has done nothing but make headlines so they can make this a political campaign topic.
He actually had illegals working in his businesses so he and many politicians actually want them here.
That is why nothing gets done.

Here is what other prez's done.

Until recent years, most people caught illegally crossing the southern border were simply bused back into Mexico in what officials called “voluntary returns,” but which critics derisively termed “catch and release.” Those removals, which during the 1990s reached more 1 million a year, were not counted in Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s deportation statistics.

 

It seems you're more interested in capitalizing the word 'rump' than learning the facts and using to reason a point. If not then why would you tell me that "policies are from the head of the staff" if you knew just how massive the size of an administration is and how some people in it have vowed to "resist"? Why would you tell me that every illegal can be "bused back to Mexico" when court battles continue to rage over our inability to do just that in nearly all instances? And why would you tell me that "nothing gets done" when nearly every measure this President attempts to take to safeguard our country from illegal immigration is blocked by the various corrupt courts not on legal grounds but as part of a strategy to outlast justice in order to flood the country with future Democrat voters?

 

I see, it's corrupt courts.
And you want me to learn facts?

If he was so concerned about illegals, why did some of his businesses hire them?
May have even aided in getting them false documents so they could hire them?

 

yeah... a humanitarian crisis, as in proving food, water and medical treatment.
That's not really the same as seeing it as a crisis so many people are trying to enter the country illegally.

 

The Trump Organization is vast in size. Its so large that, like nearly every other large corporate entity, it doesn't manage the hiring of low skilled labor positions opting instead to farm the task out to an HR firm that establishes itself as inside consultants. Surely you don't actually think that Donald Trump was conducting employee interviews for minimum wage employees, do you?

So far our entire conversation has had a common theme: You're not considering the size of these operations (the Executive Branch, the Trump Organization) and you're massively overestimating the involvement that the most senior person, Donald Trump, has the low to mid range operations.

 

Wait, from the OP.
The Trump administration is looking to hire a private contractor that will be responsible for transporting approximately 225,000migrant children and families to shelters across the country over the next five years as they wait for their asylum claims to be processed.

So, his admin can't bus them to Mexico as other admin have?
And if tRUMP wants them to transport them, you're saying his admin won't do so and he can't do anything about it?

As one famous prez once said, 'the buck stops here'.
I guess that isn't true for the self responsible RW?

I certainly have noticed a common theme from the so called right, they do nothing but blame all others, never taking responsibility for anything.

2 yrs Rs had gov't and basically didn't do anything. Now it's all how the D's won't let them. Not buying it.

 

Republicans are to blame almost equally with the Democrats. We're being invaded and no one cares. 4,500 apprehensions at the border PER DAY.

The politicians suck. Our government sucks. I hate the city of Washington and everything/anybody in it.

 

You were before?

 

No it's not like it's been happening for decades.

 

In most ever thread on this topic, I've always posted, if we are sincere in reducing illegal immigration, we should fine employers.
Stop the reason, jobs mostly, for coming here, and the issue almost resolves itself.

But the R's never get on board with enforcing actual immigration laws. Just spout blaming all others.

 

#7. Harry Truman
Total Deportations: 2,944,384

#6. Jimmy Carter
Total Deportations: 3,633,256

#5. Barack Obama
Total Deportations: 3,805,552

#4. George H. W. Bush
Total Deportations: 4,161,683

#3. Ronald Reagan
Total Deportations: 8,276,853

#2. George W. Bush
Total Deportations: 10,328,850

#1. Bill Clinton
Total Deportations: 12,290,905


Although some states like California passed local immigration laws during this time, these laws either weren’t well enforced or were thrown out by courts, says Madeline Y. Hsu, a professor of history at the University of Texas at Austin. In fact, there were no federal laws governing who could enter and who couldn’t until the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882.
...
Before this change in 1965, there had been no numeric caps on immigration within the Americas. So when the U.S. decided that it would only take a certain percentage of people from each nation per year, it was the first time the U.S. had put an official cap on Mexican immigration.
Prior to this, Mexican immigrants freely, and commonly, found work in the United States. Yet after the Hart-Celler Immigration Act was passed, “Whole groups of migrants from Mexico and Latin America whose entrance to the U.S. would have been considered legal before 1965 suddenly became illegal,” writesJane Hong, a history professor at Occidental College, in The L....
https://www.history.com/news/the-birth-of-illegal-immigration


https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/illegal-immigration-statistics/

 

Nice trivia but what is happened at the border NOW has never happened and is a total humanitarian and immigration crisis under our CURRENT law and judicial rulings.

 

I asked if you support the Graham and Trump proposals now and immediate deportation and asylum only through applying before you get here.

 

No, we cant always just "bus them to Mexico". Removing illegal immigrants is not as simple as dropping them on the other side of the border. It should be heh, but its not. There are different legal classifications behind what constitutes an illegal immigrant. They might be asylum seekers (even if only in bogus claim), they might be migrant visa overstays, they might be border crossers that we have detained on entry, they might be undocumented residents that we arrest elsewhere. Each of these classifications carries a different legal process.

Plus the fact that we have corrupt federal judges blocking administration efforts to deport...
Plus we have sanctuary cities blocking ICE attempts to arrest...
Plus our State Department actually has to negotiate with these nations to take their own people back...
Plus a dozen other roadblocks I'm not motivated enough to type out to you...

The obstacles to removing illegals are rarely ever discussed but rest assured its no simple thing. I often compare it to how absurdly complicated it is to evict someone form your own property.

 

Right on the first claim. Wrong on the second. The Trump run DHS is distributing the illegals.

 

You really have no idea why I think its funny do you?

 

Business owners. Duh.