If abortion were returned to the states

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Some of you have asked if abortion were a state issue, how would we prevent women from one state going to another state to get their abortion.

    Well I found this:

    Police say 21-year-old Rigoberto Calix-Reyes - a Honduran man - forged his birth certificate to enroll in high school and became sexually involved with a 14-year-old 8th grade girl. According to court documents, the two ran away together and police later caught up with them in Texas, hours from the Mexican border.

    He's now facing federal charges for taking a minor across state lines and having sex with her.
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...-in-local-schools&hl=en&gl=us&strip=0&vwsrc=0


    And what about women travelling to other countries to do the deed?

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2423

    Under current U.S. law, the crime doesn't have to be committed on U.S. soil for the person to be prosecuted.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Why don't we just chain all women of childbearing age to their husband's pickup?

    Not only do we force the little hussys to have the children god says they must but they're right next to the laundromat
     
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    A) you got to prove she was pregnant before she left
    B) you have to prove that the ending of the pregnancy was by deliberate intervention and
    C) your link mentions not one thing about abortion so...... rotsaruck with that one!
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is a great argument against abortion laws. Medical tourism makes them unenforceable.
     
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    How does a pedophile case have anything to do with abortion? Did you drink while writing this up?

    It's cases like these when abortion is necessary unless you want the 14-year old to have an effed up life afterwards.

    Abortion should be legal and available, tho have some restrictions on it to prevent abuse.
     
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  6. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    that is like saying that smoking Marijana in my state is illegal, so if I go to a state where it's legal and smoke it, when I get back my state can charge me... that is silly
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    what's ironic is in my conservative state, the legal age was 14 until recently, a 80 year old republican could of legally had sex with a 14 year old, when dems got control for the short time they did, they changed the age to 16 with a 5 year buffer to keep children safe
     
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    Yakamaru Well-Known Member

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    Legal Age of Consent here in Norway is 16, which is just about right IMO. Got the Romeo and Juliet thing going on, too.

    Kids around that age very often end up sexually curious and active, and it's important to teach them about the potential dangers of sex, especially unwanted pregnancies.

    Tho if you're gonna be touchin' minors as an adult, approaching 10 years in difference like that.. I know people who'd immediately draw a gun and castrate them on the spot.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    exactly, especially if the older person has money and buys them nice things, they are easily manipulated at that age

    I am glad my state changed from 14 to the newer 16 with a 5 year buffer for Romeo and Juliet type cases
     
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  10. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are no restrictions on it in the US.

    (Theoretically you can't do it after 24 weeks, but even that is theoretical, and several states have designed their laws to allow it anyway, through loopholes and intentional non-enforcement, then women from other states can just travel to those states)
     
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  11. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    At least they had a CHOICE, something which "pro-choicers" won't even grant (well, not to the underage party, anyway).

    15-year-old pregnant girls are easily manipulated too.
     
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    Why do I always see the defense of having sex with children defended by the right ???
     
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    So every single woman leaving the nation MUST have a pregnancy test BEFORE she leaves and another one IMMEDIATELY upon arriving back in the country?

    Besides the MASSIVE PROBLEM of administering those tests by the TSA you also have the problem of FALSE POSITIVES.

    Then there will be all the PROSECUTIONS and INCARCERATION of women that will be the end result. Since they will be found GUILTY of "murdering the unborn" how many will get the DEATH PENALTY and how many will end up serving LIFE SENTENCES?

    What is going to happen when women just REFUSE to obey these STUPID LAWS?

    Are you aware that women are the LARGEST VOTING BLOC in the nation?

    Seems like the OP is in desperate need of a REALITY CHECK!
     
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    Hang on

    Are you telling me that victims of paedophiles have a CHOICE?
     
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    Allowing abortion but having proper restrictions on it should serve as a reminder that women have a responsibility and power over life, one they should take seriously.

    The power of life of someone else is a power one should and need to take seriously and with the responsibility that comes with it.

    Have repeated abortions for the sake of having them? You should lose your privileges of having them. Someone who keeps having them time and time again is not the sign of an individual whose mind is sane.

    Who is defending it??

    If anything, Right-wingers are even more opposed to pedophilia than Left-wingers are, mate.
     
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    Posts # 1, # 7(explains), # 11....and more, not all here, of course.


    Are priests right wing or left wing?
     
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    that is sick - no children do not get to choose to have sex with people like Epstein... sad!
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're obviously completely misinterrpreting/misunderstanding my comments.

    was referring to abortion, not sex
     
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    Don't know what the hell you were talking about - sex with minors, forged birth certificates ... whole bunch of stuff not related to abortion.
     
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    ^

    Quite honestly I don't even know how to take this thread.
     
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    YOUR OP was not about abortion.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My OP was about legal jurisdiction.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Couldn't that also potentially happen with the laws on the books referenced in the OP ?
    Do you wish to rescind those laws as well?
     
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    Okay this myth makes me bloody cross

    Who the heck has serial abortions? Who in their right minds would choose an invasive and uncomfortable procedure over contraception?

    Yes many women have more than one abortion OVER THE PERIOD OF THIER ENTIRE FERTILE LIFE some 30+ years
     
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    Yes which is why people like Epstein got away with it for so long
     
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