If Americans choose the wrong President there will be consequences...

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Is it OK for our Creator to punish America if we choose the wrong President???

  1. Yes.. our Creator can do whatever our Creator wishes to do...

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  2. No... we are free to choose our leader ... we should not be punished for making our choice...

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  3. This is an unusual message.. but kind of scary?!

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  4. I think that this is the silliest topic that DennisTate ever posted here on the forum!

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Donor

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    I've listened to Mr. Sadhu Sundar Salvaraj many times and in my opinion he has a genuine prophetic gift right up there with the many near death experiencers who have an experience similar to II Corinthians 12: 2-4.....

    This message is serious....... if Americans elect the President in 2020 that Jesus does NOT approve of... .there will be very serious consequences!




    If America chooses the wrong President..... there will be consequences....... this message should be shared. And listen to it closely first.....

     
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    Believe what you want but don't push your b.s. on me.
     
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    Prediction of Trump 323 Electoral Seats... Biden 215....
    This is an honest and objective and well informed prediction....... very unlike CNN....
    That prediction is at the 9:14 minute mark in this video....

     
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    Tell me that a week from now!

    You will know better by then!!!!

    Richard Dawkins Ph. D. is IGNORANT about the implications of String Theory...
    ignorant of the implications of the Cyclic Model of the Universe / Multiverse....
    he is ignorant on the implications of the Law of Probability as it applies to every living organism on the earth.....

    and he is IGNORANT regarding the correlation of near death experience accounts and the fact that all of us face the LIFE REVIEW.......

    NONE OF US CAN ESCAPE OUR EVENTUAL LIFE REVIEW!!!!


    https://www.near-death.com/religion/christianity/howard-storm.html#a03

    Being an Atheist or Agnostic will not necessarily mean that we have a negative Life Review... but being dishonest is a very serious problem.
     
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    What makes you think, Dennis, that God gives a rat's rectum about who the next president is?

    "Behold, the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance: behold, he taketh up the isles as a very little thing."
    Isaiah 40:15
     
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    Tripe. Jesus was careful to keep out of politics. Very wise too. Jesus was simply a Jewish preacher who died in the 1st century CE.
     
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    We will be punishing ourselves. We have free will.
     
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    Good quotation.... I'm impressed but....


    https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/ot/isa/45?lang=eng
    1 Thus saith the Lord to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;

    2 I will go before thee, and make the crooked places straight: I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron:

    3 And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the Lord, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel.

    4 For Jacob my servant’s sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.

    5 ¶ aI am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:



    "Calling a bird of prey from the east, The man who executes My counsel, from a far country. Indeed I have spoken it; I will also bring it to pass. I have purposed it; I will also do it."

    (Isaiah 46:11)

    I admit that I could be off on my understanding of the timing for this.......... but the signs are there that now is a vastly more important time period in history than most of us tend to imagine.



    Will President Trump decree rebuilding of Jerusalem Third Temple?



    Rabbis Urge Trump, Putin to Help Rebuild Temple in Jerusalem


     
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    I am merely repeating an idea that others have put out there that I just happen to think that they are correct about.

    Sanhedrin to Trump-Putin: Fulfill Cyrus-like role in Jerusalem
    With the two top world leaders supporting Jewish right to Jerusalem, Sanhedrin asks that they build Third Temple.

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    CYRUS is quite clear that it was HIS god, Marduk, that advised him. Not only that, whereas the Jewish god is concerned with Israel and Jacob only, Marduk advises Cyrus to let ALL Babylonian captives of different nations to return home and follow their own lives and religions. Whether you believe either of not, Cyrus was one of the best humane early Emperors
     
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    So, Dennis, your God needs Trump to build another temple? So if Trump loses it means that His will was thwarted by an election?
     
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    Maybe not thwarted but we can delay positive events by making less than great choices....

    There is both power as well as responsibility that goes along with our freedom of chioce.

    https://www.near-death.com/science/research/future.html#a03

    The fulfillment of Ezekiel chapter forty seven sounds like great news for the Middle East and for the whole world.

    https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/eze/47/1/s_849001


    Afterward he brought me again unto the door of the house; and, behold, waters issued out from under the threshold of the house eastward: for the forefront of the house stood toward the east, and the waters came down from under from the right side of the house, at the south side of the altar.

    Then brought he me out of the way of the gate northward, and led me about the way without unto the utter gate by the way that looketh eastward; and, behold, there ran out waters on the right side.

    ......
    Eze 47:6

    And he said unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen this? Then he brought me, and caused me to return to the brink of the river.

    Now when I had returned, behold, at the bank of the river were very many trees on the one side and on the other.

    Then said he unto me, These waters issue out toward the east country, and go down into the desert, and go into the sea: which being brought forth into the sea, the waters shall be healed.

    And it shall come to pass, that every thing that liveth, which moveth, whithersoever the rivers shall come, shall live: and there shall be a very great multitude of fish, because these waters shall come thither: for they shall be healed; and every thing shall live whither the river cometh.
     
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    I don't believe any God needs to have a temple built to the glory of Trump.

    And, that's the only kind of temple Trump has any evidence of desiring to build.

    Given that he becomes free of his current position, he'll have more time to defend himself in the serval courts that want him for rape, tax evasion, bank and insurance fraud, and various other crimes.

    It will remain to us to start putting our government back together again.

    And, that's a strong indication of whether he is he kind of person who would worship
     
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    My wife, five months or so before she even met me......... was somehow told by Jesus that I would always tell her the truth.

    Jesus did NOT tell her that I was always correct..... just that I would always tell her the truth...... even to the point where I try to qualify my statements to make them less dogmatic............ which is in a sense somewhat more "truthful."

    I have a theory on how to pay off the national debts of The USA, Canada, Israel, Australia and one other nation that I haven't quite decided on yet but I am thinking either The Netherlands or Norway for various reasons........ one of them being that Norway passed on the Sahara Forest Project technology from Israel to several of her Islamic nations several years ago......

    I have a truly brilliant friend who somehow manages to make me really angry when we speak by phone or facetime...... he is convinced that President Trump at this time in history might be the "anti-Christ" person...........

    Bob from Delaware is the man who was given:


    God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land, Hebrew and Arabic.


    YOU....WILLREADMORE...... you have the potential to be catapulted to fame and extreme wealth...... please hit me with criticisms, comments or questions in this discussion.......... that is not intended as a trap for aspiring POTUS Joe Biden............. although yes...... I am a rather enthusiastic Trump supporter!

    A challenge for Mr. Joe Biden from an aspiring Canadian politician....







    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...g-canadian-politician.579886/#post-1072187303


    I have in mind a plan for a truce between USA Democrats and Republicans based on the ONE QUADRILLION DOLLAR CHALLENGE....... that you will find there in that discussion.........




    Crown Prince of Norway visits Sahara Forest Project!


     
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    Dr. Kevin Zadai, Prayer Secrets Level 1, Warrior Notes School of Ministry, lesson 4 :
     
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    Trump would build the golden calf
     
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    Trump has ALWAYS been ABSOLUTELY opposed to investment outside of America for ANY reason.

    Proposing that Trump would invest in your crazy scheme is just plain ludicrous.

    He IS the antiChrist. There is nothing that Jesus did on Earth that he has not opposed.

    And as for America being an instrument of good, Trump has opposed that concept. Trump has even worked hard to eliminate fundamental aspects that our founders created in order for our nation to survive.

    The America that Trump has worked for is one where the only possible concern is for ones own personal financial benefit.

    Of course, being able to pay the bills is important. But, Trump has totally ended the story with that as the total conclusion - ultimate focus on self.

    This is absolutely contrary to EVERYTHING Jesus taught about how we should lead our lives on Earth.
     
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    Your message is very well written but......
    the situation right now is extremely serious......... for one thing.... Mr. Hunter Biden could easily be in jail serving a lengthy jail term well before January of 2021. I don't have to tell you how that is a relevant detail....... to this discussion.....


    A challenge for Mr. Joe Biden from an aspiring Canadian politician....



    I believe that President Trump's decisions have set the stage for America to switch over to hydrogen fuel.....
    there is technology that is hidden.... that can transform the USA and world economy within months but........

    .... releasing that technology is sensitive.....and it must be prepared for......

    In my opinion a USA judge collaborated with the total character assassination of inventor Stanley Meyer...... from what I have read on this topic so far....

    In order to set the stage for the USA to switch over to Stanley Meyer type technology..... the probability of BigOil companies being able to purchase USA judges must be decreased.............


    USA judge allows white substance to be added to Stanley Meyer device?




    I do believe that President Trump in spite of all of his many, many, many, many flaws.... is indeed being led by the right hand by Jesus..... but... it is true that President Trump may not know Jesus all that well yet........ that is a valid point......


    Word has it that a major USA military supplier has something now that is far, far, far, far, far beyond the Stanley Meyer dune buggy.... that got a hundred miles per gallon........ on tap water...... in Australia...... but in order to release that technology....... the Washington Swamp must be dealt with........ first......


    Can we learn about the Washington Swamp from the Ottawa Swamp?





     
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    Hunter Biden is not running for office. Furthermore, there are no charges against him that haven't already been refuted. You're swallowing one of the numberous Trump self serving assaults on our democracy.

    The hydrogen thing is TOTAL nonsense. First of all, Trump likes COAL. Second of all, hydrogen is NOT A FUEL SOURCE. The most that can be done with hydrogen is as a battery - a way to store energy for later use. With cars, the most it could do is improve air quality where cars are driven - which has NEVER been even slightly interesting to Trump. There is nothing "sensitive" about hydrogen. It's been studies for use in automobiles for ages.

    Jesus is not calling for racism. He's not calling for denying people healthcare. He's not calling for denying medicine on the grounds of sexual orientation. Jesus called for world wide ministry while Trump says FU to every other country that isn't led by a ruthless dictator such as Argentina, North Korea and Russia - dictators he states that he admires. Jesus didn't call for the kind of mysogeny that has led Trump to take physical sexual advantage of women for his own gratification.

    The idea that he is led by Jesus is a stupendous insult to Jesus.
     
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    Your tap water thing is another case of you sucking up pretty much any piece of total nonsense if it totally defies science.

    Trump has stated that he HATES science, by the way. And, surely that is because when he says stupid stuff about science (like with COVID) science is unified behind the truth that he's once again promulgating a direction that is LETHAL to our citizens. He has been proven seriously dangerous to our health - not just in working to deny people healthcare but also in PROMOTING behavior that is lethal.
     
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    That is what CNN told you.....
    so you believe them.......???

    I am of the belief that Steven Greer M. D. is a genius... (but of course my assessment could be somewhat off I suppose) ....... there is a four hour lecture by him here:


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/could-this-ufo-have-been-made-in-america.552308/

    Could this UFO have been Made in America?




    Although this is on the Conspiracy Theory section this might not be a total waste of your time......
    I am working on flipping Billionaire Bill Gates away from Malthusian philosophy over to something different.....

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...religion-politics-and-the-media.331262/page-3

    I begin to reply into this discussion in post number fifty seven....

    For the record Dr. Steven Greer promoted both Energy from Quantum Vacuum as well as the Stanley Meyer technology.... and in a way that impressed me greatly. His theory was that if the truth about UFO activity was released..... Americans would no longer settle for the internal combustion engine......... That sure sounded logical to me..... The possibility of Energy from Quantum Vacuum explains how the Stanley Meyer dune buggy technology DID NOT violate any true scientific laws.
     
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    That reminds me of how Christians of the year 40 to 66 C. E. weren't too thrilled with Jesus calling Rabbi Shaul who became the Apostle Paul of the Messianic Jewish and Messianic Gentile movement of the first century...........

    The full history of that movement is highly relevant to one of your major interests.....


    First century church may have numbered 400,000... did the majority convert to Islam?



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsvi_Misinai

     
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