If Americans choose the wrong President there will be consequences...

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by DennisTate, Oct 31, 2020.

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Is it OK for our Creator to punish America if we choose the wrong President???

  1. Yes.. our Creator can do whatever our Creator wishes to do...

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  2. No... we are free to choose our leader ... we should not be punished for making our choice...

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  3. This is an unusual message.. but kind of scary?!

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  4. I think that this is the silliest topic that DennisTate ever posted here on the forum!

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    If you would state your point and identify how your cites supports your argument, that would make it a lot more interesting.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Palestinians are significantly genetically Jewish.....
    my theory is that they are significantly descended from the Messianic Jewish community of the first century.....
    The Messianic Jews did NOT join the Bar Kochba Revolt and thus... they were NOT expelled from The Holy Land after the Bar Kochba Revolt was crushed.......
    Their grandchildren were later given the choice to become Muslims or........ there would be economic and other consequences if they did not do so....


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsvi_Misinai


    The general idea of decreased hostilities between Israelis and Palestinians fits with....


    After the Abraham Peace Accord turn deserts green...

    and.....

    Can Israel pull the entire world economy out of a possible Bear Market, another 1929?



    In spite of all of his many, many, many, many, many flaws.... President Trump in my opinion is approaching decreasing tensions in the Middle East in a manner that works.... President Obama and V. P. Biden...... approached the same problem in a manner that did not work at all...........
    (unless you would like to destroy the economies of Iraq and Syria and Afghanistan and several other nations in the Middle East...... and create million of refugees.... and a holocaust on the Christians and Yazidis and other minorities there.)!?

     
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  3. (original)late

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    Uh huh.
     
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    Things do not bode well, I'm afraid. :icon_shithitsthefan

    What do we do now, Dennis? :flagcanada:
     
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    Before you start saying “I’m moving to Canada”, no. No you are not. We are building a wall to keep you out, and Donald Trump will pay for it.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I believe that you Americans did great.... they proved that the majority of Americans do not agree with corruption........ and the markers on the ballots will soon change the whole formula so that 2020 will be the last major election in which voter fraud will even be attempted on any major scale.

     
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    Uh. First, God knows in advance who the Americans have chosen. Second, He would have preferred that they chose the king of the Kingdom of Heaven and ignored the earthly vote anyway. Jesus said: Arise, let us go hence. My kingdom is not of this world.
     
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    WOW!!

    So, Mr. Trump set the Dems up! This is the trap of the century! :applause::applause::applause:

    So, not only they will lose the election but the long anticipated mass arrests, trials and draining the swamp will finally take place! BRILLIANT! One shot, two bores! :clapping::clapping::clapping:

    P.S. I'm not American, Dennis, I'm European. :nana:
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But you are correct..... it really does look as this is the signal for the indictments of the deep swamp in Washington and Hollywood who behaved in a highly predatory manner but in the past were untouchable....... but not any more!
     
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    I am listening to this verification by Mark Taylor right now......

     
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    We are in the Last Days. Everything going on may get us closer to the end of days. Who America chooses for its leaders, not just the President, will affect the entire world in these days. In Isaiah's days, they had no idea of how big the world was. But, it matters today.
     
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    This is what this thread feels like, only not as interesting....

     
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    No, here's what's to come for earthly leaders:

    "13And I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs;
    14for they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them together for the war of the great day of God, the Almighty.
    Revelation 16:13,14

    Notice it didn't say "Except for America!"
     
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    Classic; I loved everything about the original series when it first aired and still do.
     
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    Who do you think the false prophet is? It's most likely Kamala Harris as Joe Biden will be cast aside. And, as I said, this President will affect the entire world meaning going out to the kings of the whole world and gather them up against the kingdom of God. The last days before the Millennium.
     
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    I am really impressed with what Evangelist John Ramirez, (who is a repentant former Satanist), says about all of this.




    It's Not Over Devil! | John Ramirez
     
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    Video did not work. I'm more impressed with what the true apostles and prophets have to say about these subjects. They are the special witnesses of Jesus Christ.
     
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    I had a really impressive session online with two Latter day Saints missionaries today in which I got to think through where I feel that I am being led personally.

    I feel a little bit like the Prophet Jeremiah in the sense that he was impressed to find out that G-d was working with Rechabites....... (but Jeremiah was not personally led to fully join the Rechabites and live a nomadic life with them).

    I feel a bit like the Prophet Elijah in that I have just been rebuked and found out that there are sixteen million Latter day Saints and fifty thousand LDS missionaries even in 2020 with a COVID 19 pandemic, (I believe that there were around eighty thousand LDS missionaries in 2019), (I am comparing what I found out over these past two years to Elijah being told that there were seven thousand who had not bowed the knee to Baal, but..... they were in hiding from Queen Jezebel.

    If I was asked by a Latter day Saint as to who had a greater spiritual authority, President Russel Nelson or near death experiencer and former Skeptic Howard Storm, and / or near death experiencer Pastor Dean Braxton and / or near death experiencer Dr. Kevin Zadai........ I quite frankly could not make the statement at this time in my life that I felt that President Nelson automatically had greater spiritual authority than a Christian who goes through a near death experience!?!?!?

    For that reason..... I feel that it is win - win - win - win - win both for the LDS church as well as for all the people that I can reach online..... if I continue to fellowship with you Latter day Saints as technically a non-member.


    I have a challenge for all sixteen million Latter day Saints and all eight million Israeli Jews that I believe will give you Latter day Saints a massive opening door to the nation of Israel that will make you famous in front of all Christian denominations that are genuinely pro-Israel, (many are)!


    On this planet at this time there is somebody who fits the profile of the Cyrus leader of Isaiah chapter forty five brilliantly........... and..... as the Jewish people are warned......... his life is in danger!



    https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/101747/jewish/Appendix-II.htm


    Moshiach ben Ephrayim could be a modern type of King Cyrus......
     
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    Please deeply pray about this basic idea?

    Please ask the Holy Spirit to give you Sir your answer to this question?



    A possible modern Mashiach ben Ephrayim / Messiah son of Joseph and.....


     
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    President Nelson is the President of the Church of Jesus Christ. He is the one who holds all the keys of authority of the kingdom on the earth. It's through these keys a person can be baptized and begin the journey to Eternal Life. The other saving ordinances including receiving the GIFT of the Holy Ghost and admittance into to the Church of Jesus Christ are through those with proper Priesthood Authority coming through the President of the Church only come by way of President Nelson. Without his Keys, my Priesthood is of no use. Just as when the final apostles died off due to unbelief the Authority to act in the name of Jesus Christ also died off. Then, there are the Ordinances required in the Temple to receive Eternal Life. Without the President of the Church, they would not be in existence.

    The personal experiences of those who believe they have seen the Christ and spoken with him may be true. Or, they may just be their brains in a difficult spot re-creating dreams of mixed information. But, what I know is true is that if their dreams do not include being told to find the truth in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, then I have to believe they are not of God but possibly of the Devil. If they are driving people away from the true Gospel of Jesus Christ, and keeping others from receiving the ordinances of the Priesthood then they are not of God and of the Devil.

    What I perceive is happening is that you are trying very hard to find the truth about God. But, are being blinded by the mist of Lehi's dream and being confused by the people in the large and spacious building mocking the true believers of Jesus Christ trying to get to the Tree of Life. You are being deceived by every wind and doctrine of man. The way and the truth is very simple. There is order in Heaven. Not thousands of paths back to our Father in Heaven. Not the union of thousands of doctrines and experiences of others. It's you that must develop your own personal testimony that God lives, Jesus is the Christ, Joseph Smith was a Prophet of God and through him the Father's Doctrine comes through, The Book of Mormon is the Word of God with true doctrine and a companion to the Bible and another Testament of Jesus Christ, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the only Church authorized by Jesus Christ to hold his Holy Priesthood and to administer His Holy Priesthood ordinances. If people's spiritual experiences don't bring that testimony to them, it's not of God.
     
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    I do admit that President Nelson has great spiritual gifts and authority but.... I cannot make the statement that he has greater wisdom and understanding than near death experiencers Howard STorm, Dean Braxton and Kevin Zadai!!!!!!!!!!!

    This is the potential conflict that would tend to greatly decrease the probability of my being baptized by and blessed by LDS Elders no matter how much I like them and respect their zeal and enthusuasm.

    I can better assist you Latter day Saints to reach out to the nation of Israel as a non member who fellowships with you regularly..... than I can do if I were to become a baptized member of the LDS. I received the Holy Spirit when I was baptized by immersion and prayed for by Worldwide Church of God pastors back in 1979.

    My all time record for being disfellowshipped from Christian churches is two... in not much more than one month, back in 1991. I suggested to Pastor G... M.... that he may as well kick me out of the church because now that I saw that the WWCG was incorrect on our teachings on Soul Sleep.............. and he did. Within a month or so I also attended with.... and then also separated from the Philadelphia Church of God led by Pastor General Gerald Flurry. It is better for the LDS church...... if I do not join...... because my calling could eventually create some possible division.
     
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    Speaking of negative consequences for choosing Biden.......




    Tucker: We heard you. It’s hard to trust anything. Here’s what we know.


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    For decades leaders of the religious right have been telling the rest of the United States how unusually moral they are. Nevertheless they have been known for lurid sex scandals and for lavish lifestyles financed by contributions by poor, lonely, elderly women.

    It cannot be said that they are good at choosing political leaders. In 1980 they abandoned the most sincerely Christian president the United States has ever had for a product of Hollywood who seldom attended church. In 2016 they reached even lower and choose a lying, foul mouthed, womanizing pagan.

    The Gospel According to St. Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

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