If liberals are ok with people having guns, why then is it nearly impossible...

I live in MA and had no issue getting a conceal carry permit.

 

Firearm permits have a long history of being discriminatory in their nature, purpose for existing, and manner of being issued.

There is also the fact that states which require firearm permits, have been caught by the FBI issuing permits to those with disqualifying criminal records, simply because those who should not have firearms have been able to offer significant bribes to those tasked with issuing the permits.

 

That’s the whole idea. Permits should discriminate against convicted felons and some others. Every permit ever issued discriminates against people’s that society deemed not acceptable.
Really, I've known that like, forever.

 

Could you please provide links to credible sources showing such?

 

No, that's wrong. Some places, you have to be connected (or pay someone off) to get a permit...and in some places, all permit applications are simply denied!

Which is, of course, the intent. They want guns limited to the rich, the well-connected, and criminals.

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Links to credible sources proving such?

 

Offhand, RI denied almost all permits (if you knew the right people, of course, it was no problem) until slapped down by the Supreme Court. Several MA county sheriffs went on record that they would deny all permits. (I think all are now out of office.)

All states should be shall-issue.

 

So anecdotal evidence only

 

Illinois did not issue permits (though, of course, the well-connected could ALWAYS get one) until the Federal appeals court forced them to do so. (Moore v Madigan, 2013)

 

Like I said...only anecdotal evidence

 

Sorry, a court case is not "anecdotal evidence".

 

Gee, I’m not connected, I have a permit. It costs $25 a year to renew.
Some places ? That doesn’t sounds like real evidence.

 

Permits are suppose to discriminate those who are qualified from those that aren’t. They discriminate based upon qualification. So, saying they have a long history of being discriminatory in nature, says little. We know they do by qualification.

 

Go evidence ? Otherwise, it’s just being an NRA prevarication of fakery.

 

The court case was about your claim of bribery for gun permits???

 

Not having any idea where your permit is from because you do not give your location, I cannot comment on it.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/25/...ged-in-widening-corruption-investigation.html

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/04/25/nypd-gun-license-bribery-scheme-case/

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/25/...n-widening-corruption-investigation.html?_r=0

 

Such is ultimately what the background check system for firearm purchases is supposed to do, as it is the sole reason to justify its existence and use. It is supposed to prevent the legal purchasing of firearms by convicted felons and other individuals. So ultimately how can requiring a firearms permit serve to achieve such any better than the system that already exists?

 

Hahahaha...so a total of four people were charged. Wow....that's some widespread problem...hahaha

 

Except they did not start out as discriminatory based on the notion of qualification, but rather on race. Firearm permits were used to keep legal immigrants and members of minorities from being able to legally purchase and own firearms for their own protection. Now they serve to discriminate on the basis of economic standing.

 

How long did the problem exist before it was found out? How many permits were issued to prohibited individuals while being denied to individuals who simply could not afford the exorbitant and excessive fees the paperwork requires? How many acts of official corruption are necessary to demonstrate the system is corrupt and without merit for existing?

 

NOW all of a sudden you care about gun license process? Hahaha...too funny. Four people ain't much of an issue

 

How many permits were issued to prohibited individuals, simply because of the bribes that were offered?

 

100....as I said, not a widespread problem.

 

That’s crapolla. Sure, you have to pay some money for it to be processed. So based upon economics...a little. I need $25 bucks. They ask me no questions about my ethnicity or income level.
Does my training make it easier ? I think so and it should. But my neighbor has no problem . Proof of being vet and an ex cop, only insured them I had the training. But should gun owners have more training then a token gun course by uncertified instructors or none at all. Bet your asteroid imo.

So, I’m in big favor of discriminating permits by training.....just like licensing for a car. Be consistent. I bet you’d want people to pass a drivers test to get a license. I’d like suitably “poorly token trained persons” to have to pass a test by highly certified instructors too. That’s the kind of discrimination I would agree to.