If the entire might of the US miltary turned against the population....

who would win?

You have the military with all their jets and tanks and fancy bombs and about 300,000 soldiers...on the other side you have about 100 million people with access to weapons to fight back and not just any weapons but ones that kill.

Plus they have to settle an uprising not just in a city but the entire US of A.

The scenario is that there is no foreign help, what the military has right now in country is what they have to work with so could they subdue the nation in an Us vs. them situation?

 

Most of the countries we fight have far more civilians than we have soldiers, and those civilians often times have access to guns as well. That doesn't mean they know how to fight. A civilian with a gun is not equal t o a soldier with a gun. The military would have bombers, far better weapons, artillary....They could kill hundreds of thousands of people a day just bombing cities and take out most of the resistance.

 

Main difference here would be that the soldiers would be shooting their own family, parents, wife and children and so, those are civilians to

without that factor i'd say military wins
with that factor i'd say military wil be split and defeat itself eventually(by either loosing to defectors or weakening itself enough to loose to civilians)

 

Your entire argument is based on the BS premise that if the military turns against the country they have to kill their own families as well. I would assume their families would likely support them, or if not, it would end up like the civil war. Families killed were broken up in border states over which side they supported, brothers and cousins often fought each other.

 

I doubt this would ever happen. However, just to entertain your premise and assume that it's purely numbers:

There are about 2 million active duty and reserve members of the military. There are over 300 million US citizens with nearly 2 guns for each one in current circulation. It would be a massacre, but the military would need to resort to a scorched-earth nuclear scenario to avoid being overrun, in my opinion.

 

Most of the population, probably 90%, would support the military against the militants.

 

I think the OP is literally talking about all 300,000,000 million Americans all deciding to rebel....

About 2/3 are untrained idiots who can easily be killled.

I am sure the soldiers families would side with them. So the entire premise that soldiers would have to start murderijng their spouses and children like the OP claims, even if this happened is BS.

 

The US population will never have to worry about that. In a worse case scenario if the military was set free to bomb and destroy vast areas and kill thousands of citizens, part of the military would rebel.

 

I'm not so sure. We've seen countless times where US soldiers were more than willing to murder innocent, unarmed American citizens because they were orderd to. I mean, look at Kent State. They just shot dozens of innocent, unarmed civilians in cold blood. Soldiers follow orders.

 

Some do, some won't, especially when things start getting very bloody. No matter, won't happen in my lifetime.

 

Depends on how you define US military. If that only includes active duty. The military would lose because of sheer numbers. For example in our town of about a thousand, there would only be about four military versus a probably about 300 capable of fighting. .The civilians could easily beat them. If national guards and reserves were included, it would most likely be different.

 

Given that a good number Americans are fat, dumb and/or lazy....my money is on an organized military that is trained and has far superior weapons and a bigger cache of ammo.

 

It would be very difficult for the US Military to subdue the Nation. Probably impossible.

 

But governments tend not to bomb their own people

 

Good reason to not subsidize them. Thanks for that

 

You're gotcha moment in only in your head. Go figure..heh heh heh

 

The military hands down.

 

Any citizen uprising would be swiftly put down by local law enforcement. The military wouldn't even be needed. But if you insisted on them being involved, they would end the conflict swiftly. Small arms have no chance against heavy artillery, air support etc.

 

The whole OP is a silly premise.

 

In Vietnam very few in the military believed there was any purpose to it. Yet the lifers reupped because they had so many years already behind them and wanted to get their pension back in the world. Julius Caesar knew how to motivate the cadre. The first-hitchers may not want to obey, but the lifers will bring hell-fire, some deaths, and misery down on them until they do obey. The WWII military might not have slaughtered US civilians but it is a degraded, declining culture now.

A ragtag militia will inflict few casualties against a full-time, well-trained US military unit with air cover, artillery, logistics, and advanced technology behind them. The only rules of engagement when such SHTF will be to expect death any second because civilians will lose. A special forces squad can take out a thousand innocent civilians at a time in psy war ops.

 

America has tried to subdue many nations with military force since WW II. Can you think of any successes?

 

Yea I don't know how to respond to the OP. I'll try my best.

It would just be chaotic. No better word I can think of.

If, in your scenario, every American is turned against the military personnel (let's not get into the whole "but what about their families" stuff...let's assume the soldiers have no families for the sake of argument), then manning bases and establishing strong-holds would be madness.

Sure there could be bombing runs and massive tank displays but realistically, the might of numbers comes into play.

Unless of course we're talking about mass casualties from WMDs. Then we get into another discussion.

 

The military would split, maybe not 50-50 but enough to make a difference.

 

Idiotic scenario. The military all took an Oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution. What you’re suggesting is that the military would ALL violate their Oath.

 

Yes. I'm glad you were able to figure that out...

Now that we moved past that...do you agree that the might of numbers would out-man the US bases?