If there are waiting periods on guns, why shouldn't there be a waiting period on abortion?

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  1. Vegas giants

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    I was quite clear that it is easy to buy a gun even with a waiting period
     
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    Except, like abortions, for people who have to drive a long way for them...

    But thats not many people in either case.

    Given that waiting periods are already a restriction imposed on all to prevent a very tiny minority of people from making a hasty decision, the fact that it is an increased burden for a few is (apparently) inconsequencial anyway.
     
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    It is a substantial burden to make a woman drive 12 hours for an abortion. No one HAS to do this to buy a gun
     
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    Im sure a few folks do.

    Suppose some future legislation makes it unprofitable to run a gun store in some state in the near future, and 100s of 1000s of people suddenly have to travel several hours to buy a gun legally. Would you take issue with that 'substantial burden' on a constitutionally protected right?
     
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    Yes I would. That is an undue burden
     
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    OK, What's the difference on waiting periods between gun ownership and abortions?


    ......a waiting period is so that those wanting a gun get a background check.

    (It's true this doesn't work at all since anyone can get all the guns they want..)

    Why would a background check be necessary for a woman who wants an abortion? There is NO reason.

    The ONLY reason that a 3 day waiting period is suggested for abortions is ONLY to make it harder for women to get an abortion....a 3 day wait for gun ownership is NOT only to make getting a gun harder....
     
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    So? It’s her choice
     
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    Again, the waiting period is not for the BGC.

    "The NICS background check is valid for up to 30 days and only covers a single transaction (a single transaction can involve multiple guns). In most cases, a check takes only a couple of minutes. According to the FBI, roughly 92% of checks render an instant verdict. If a check is clean, the gun is sold. If it’s denied, the sale doesn’t go through. In about 8% of cases, the verdict is delayed, and the seller has to wait three days. If there is no verdict after three days, the sale can go through."

    http://graphics.wsj.com/gun-check-explainer/

    If waiting periods were for BGCs, then the 92% that 'render an instant verdict' wouldnt have to wait. But they do have to wait, because waiting periods are not 'BGC time,' they are 'cooling off time.' Some of the laws are actually called 'cool off' or 'cool down' periods, and virtually every gun control article on the issue (that I was able to find) refers to waiting periods as 'cooling off' periods.
     
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    Again, there is no comparison between being forced to wait for a medical procedure and owning a gun.

    Why would a background check be necessary for a woman who wants an abortion? There is NO reason.

    The ONLY reason that a 3 day waiting period is suggested for abortions is ONLY to make it harder for women to get an abortion....a 3 day wait for gun ownership is NOT only to make getting a gun harder....it's to protect other people....(and it still doesn't work...)
     
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    Indeed it is. Just like folks who commit suicide. That doesnt stop gun controllers from arguing that waiting ('cool down') periods can prevent suicide. So why not protect aborters similarly?
     
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    BGCs arent necessary for abortions. Since Waiting periods are not in place for background checks, the subject of BGCs is immaterial to this discussion. Yet you keep going on about them... Why?
     
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    You keep making these disconnected comparisons, A woman choosing to terminate a pregnancy has nothing to do with gun control or people committing suicide. Women are not stupid and an abortion is a painful process but you can be sure they give plenty of thought to.
     

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